If Western Christians ever woke up to God's provisions & promises, we'd be a real threat to the gates of hell. We've settled for institutional church instead π΄
Someone asks, βWho's your pastor?β
And we answer with the name of the man who gives the sermon every Sunday.
But that raises questions:
Does he actually pastor you?
Does he know you?
Do you know him?
Has he observed your life?
Has he corrected you?
Someone asks, βWho's your pastor?β
And we answer with the name of the man who gives the sermon every Sunday.
But that raises questions:
Does he actually pastor you?
Does he know you?
Do you know him?
Has he observed your life?
Has he corrected you?
The "serious questions" π€£ posed on "Christian" Twitter by @ShaneSchaetzel and many others are beyond absurd, and likely cause skeptics and atheists to smile and be affirmed in their positions.
πππ [my patented triple eye-roll]
Western Christendom has redefined biblical faith.
Faith has become agreeing with propositions about Jesus, then being told we're saved and to never question "our salvation."
In the New Testament & the historical "Way," though...
@YahwehGraced Romans 2 says Gentiles who do NOT have the Law are still judged for sin (vs 12β16). So how can 1 John 3:4-the passage used to argue that sin is violation of the Mosaic Torah-fit with Paul's argument?
He says they're accountable even though they do not have the Law.
We believers, especially in the West, have been FREELY given [past tense] incredibly awesome promises & provisions... an unimaginable treasure IN CHRIST, but...
We live as beggars, satisfied with the pottage of bland Christian activities & occasional, fleshly religious efforts.
@YahwehGraced Romans 2 says Gentiles who do NOT have the Law are still judged for sin (vs 12β16). So how can 1 John 3:4-the passage used to argue that sin is violation of the Mosaic Torah-fit with Paul's argument?
He says they're accountable even though they do not have the Law.
Western Christendom has redefined biblical faith.
Faith has become agreeing with propositions about Jesus, then being told we're saved and to never question "our salvation."
In the New Testament & the historical "Way," though...
@Be_Like_JChrist @moody64556609 Those who are cemented into the kind of thinking you're exposing are not going to give even one inch apart from God moving upon their heart, mind, & will.
So, trying to have rational, reasonable dialogue with them is almost guaranteed to be a fruitless waste of time & energy.
@MrMrsTrumpet your meme doesn't define Christianity. It takes God's indictment of Old Covenant Israel & uses it to condemn the vast majority of New Covenant believers since Pentecost.
Such claims require clear NT support.
Publicly pronouncing God's judgment is a fearful thing.
@MrMrsTrumpet your meme doesn't define Christianity. It takes God's indictment of Old Covenant Israel & uses it to condemn the vast majority of New Covenant believers since Pentecost.
Such claims require clear NT support.
Publicly pronouncing God's judgment is a fearful thing.
In the church you attend...
Do you KNOW the "head pastor"? Does he KNOW you?
Are a plurality of God-equipped under-shepherds raising the flock up into the fullness of the stature of Christ?
Is there one-to-another ministry?
Do all members have a role, function, & voice?
In the church you attend...
Do you KNOW the "head pastor"? Does he KNOW you?
Are a plurality of God-equipped under-shepherds raising the flock up into the fullness of the stature of Christ?
Is there one-to-another ministry?
Do all members have a role, function, & voice?
@Cmin7sus4 Torah Observers Focus mainly on 7th-day Sabbath, dietary restrictions, & Hebrew feasts.
Do the book of Acts & the Epistles show a pattern of expectation or requirement for believers in Christ to observe these things?
They clearly do not, & that is extremely telling.
I've repeatedly asked Torah observant believers to demonstrate from scripture that Torah observance is taught & expected in the New Testament for New Covenant believers... especially in the book of Acts & the epistles... where we would EXPECT to see such unambiguous teaching.
Memes like this reveal where insistence on Torah observance can ultimately lead
It implies that generations of faithful disciples, including many of history's greatest missionaries & teachers, stood under God's condemnation for not observing the Mosaic Torah
π€ Think about that
Observance of the Mosaic Torah is perfectly fine if people choose to do so.
A serious problem arises, however, when believers insist... whether subtly or directly... that other New Covenant believers are obligated to observe the Mosaic Torah.
Torah observant believers frequently appeal to Jesus' words, "teaching them to observe all things that I commanded you," in the Great Commission to support the obligation of New Covenant believers to observe the Mosaic Torah, BUT...
I've repeatedly asked Torah observant believers to demonstrate from scripture that Torah observance is taught & expected in the New Testament for New Covenant believers... especially in the book of Acts & the epistles... where we would EXPECT to see such unambiguous teaching.
Justification & reconciliation with God are the starting points of things that are light-years more glorious & profound than the forgiveness of sins with a ticket to heaven that Western, institutional Church has shrunk the gospel down to.
@Cmin7sus4 The question posed in my original post is simple. It's the same with other posts I've made regarding Torah observance.
I constantly get diversions, distractions, supposed proof texts, opinions, & questions, but never a straightforward answer.
This is why I ignore most replies.