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[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@TheAureateOne @Honest_Ronaldo7 @fcbgm @ProdigyFCi See, I don’t even think Casillas was one of their top two players in the tournament (Xavi and Villa). Just goes to show the point I’m making. When there’s not a clear standout player, people disagree and vote for different people and none of them win.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@TheAureateOne @Honest_Ronaldo7 @fcbgm @ProdigyFCi Spain didn’t have a clear standout player in 2010. Neither did Germany in 2014. When the World Cup winning team has a clear standout player, that player wins the Ballon D’or. When it doesn’t, then someone else can win because the WC-winning players split votes amongst themselves.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@TheAureateOne @Honest_Ronaldo7 @fcbgm @ProdigyFCi If Argentina don’t win the World Cup final, then his achievements wouldn’t be at the top since MLS achievements don’t hold a candle
to achievements in better club leagues and he wouldn’t have a World Cup win to overcome that. So he wouldn’t win the award.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@TheAureateOne @Honest_Ronaldo7 @fcbgm @ProdigyFCi If Argentina won the WC, then Messi genuinely probably was the best player in the last year AND would’ve had the best achievements of any great player (since winning the World Cup is bigger than any club achievements).

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ijkTA1619 @Xtremessi @abdz24 @forthefacts That’s because the World Cup happened near the end of the 2022 calendar year and the 2022 Ballon D’or was awarded in the middle of 2022, so that World Cup fell within the timeframe for the 2023 Ballon D’or instead.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@Nsukka_okpa And incidentally, you’ll find that people don’t lead with the 2024 Copa America when talking about why Messi is the GOAT.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@Nsukka_okpa The context of the international trophies matters. The Euros doesn’t matter as much as the World Cup (and Nations League matters very little). And Ronaldo didn’t even play very well in Euro 2016 and barely played in by far the hardest match. It’s equivalent to Messi’s 2024 Copa.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ijkTA1619 @abdz24 @forthefacts The World Cup matters a lot for Ballon D’or voting, but the World Cup winning team isn’t going to produce the Ballon D’or winner if no one is really even sure who their standout player was.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ijkTA1619 @abdz24 @forthefacts Because there wasn’t a clear standout player on Spain that all the voters coalesced on. So Spain players split votes, and Messi had been the best player outside the WC. It’d be like if Spain wins this WC without Yamal standing out in the finals and Kane wins the Ballon D’or.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@shingx_ @kafadooo But really it just wasn’t surprising, because Messi’s statistical lead wasn’t enormous and the CL trophy matters more than what Messi won, so when you look at all the relevant factors it makes sense to have Ronaldo ahead of Messi. Modric was a different story.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@shingx_ @kafadooo And that’s despite Messi also having a lot more assists than Ronaldo that year. Messi had clearly better stats and won the league and Copa Del Rey over Ronaldo but Ronaldo was ahead in voting solely because of the CL trophy. If the shoe were on the other foot, you’d complain.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@Mr_tinto @Arthur09235519 He will be 2nd because most people don’t agree with you about that—at least as it applies to the entire season (as in, all competitions).

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ZZS50 Was Paolo Rossi winning it in 1982 a spit in the face too, when he won the award after barely even playing club football that year? If the World Cup winning team had a clear standout player, that player wins the Ballon D’or.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ZZS50 @KlawLegacy If there’s someone on the World Cup winning team that clearly was the team’s standout player, they win the Ballon D’or. If there is no such standout player, then there’s room for other people to win.

[Roaridon @Roaridon1]

@ZZS50 @KlawLegacy A Spanish or German player didn’t win in 2010 or 2014 because it wasn’t even clear who the best player on those teams were. So their players split votes. Modric and Messi were clearly their team’s best players.