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@Investanswers Sure, but where does the ENERGY come from? Right now the only way to sustain this AI boom seems to be squeezing ordinary people even harder. Is that what you’re advocating for?
@Investanswers@TobyTho77978501 ...and how much of that empire was built on government subsidies and contracts? But sure, Elon Musk is the poster child for pure capitalism.
@Investanswers@saylor Or you screw civilization and ram through a data center by buying off three local officials... allegedly. Don't worry, James, it will use very little energy and won't harm the citizens or the environment.
@TomCrown Absolutely. The power grid upgrades they require are massive, spiking utility bills for regular folks and straining local environments. Having sold power equipment to greenhouses, I've seen the grid strain firsthand and they use a fraction of the energy data centers do.
@PennyStockLane@sts1956@Investanswers@elonmusk@realDonaldTrump James pivoted to water, but my point was about ENERGY. Data centers pull massive, continuous load, far more than the greenhouses where they strained residents and the environment. The concern is energy impact, not reclaimed water.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers There are bigger concerns at stake than what you are stating. That is where my mind is at. I respect the dialogue . Take care
@NewsAsset The Dems have egg on their face from SBF. Then you add the lack of regulatory clarity along with Trump and his administration doing shady practices feeds into this narrative unfortunately.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Your math and logic are completely flawed. You’re intentionally going on tangents because you can’t address my original point. I recommend you review the original point again.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Back on point, you still haven't brought any data to refute me.
My experience selling power equipment to greenhouses proves they use a fraction of the power of AI centers. Pushing data centers close to residents ruins neighborhoods and strains our public utilities.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Like I said, I sold power equipment into the area, so I know a bit about the infrastructure demands firsthand. Now please show comparable data proving a 300 MW AI center creates the same regional economic spillover as Leamington’s greenhouse sector.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Using Leamington’s own numbers, the greenhouse sector generates roughly $1.2M per hectare in farm gate value alone, though it fluctuates with yields and commodity prices.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Greenhouses generate $1–$2M/hectare in local economic activity. AI may create value too, but your equation ignores the socialized costs. The upside flows to tech elites like Elon Musk, while taxpayers and ratepayers subsidize massive grid upgrades.
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Greenhouses feed people & pump millions into the local economy via payroll.A data center hogs the same grid, creates almost NO local jobs & forces residents to subsidize their power lines. Gross tech revenue means nothing if locals get stuck with the bills & money goes to elites
@ndshiba@MemotheDane@Investanswers Food security & permanent jobs less prone to weather. Plus, we actually have stricter environmental regulations here to manage it.
What James wants creates almost no long term jobs, but the taxpayer, ratepayer, & environmental costs of these data centers will be astronomical.