the most clarifying thing I’ve learned by paying attention to MLB labor relations for the last decade is that some of you are just losers. you are sad losers who wish that a billionaire would smile at you for a fleeting moment while sticking his hand in your wallet
He can't both be the thing we all want to get rid of but also what the Tiger's want the most. If we all want him to be part of deal, isn't that a good indicator that maybe he's not that valuable even at his current control?
Either George is a fantastic pitcher we can't get rid of, or he's the one we want to give away, either way, doesn't really seem like a great value option for Skubal.
@OldWillieBoy I would love it to be honest. I just kinda think the same reason every Mariner fan wants it to be George is the same reason they don't really want him. What does he do to turn around your franchise in a meaningful way? He's kinda mid.
@ABBroadcaster04@MarinersSteve Other teams will be making offers for Skubal as well. You aren't just giving the Tigers something they want, it has to be better than all the other offers too.
@Bob_Saggett_@MarinersSteve If you think we have 6 "elite" starting pitchers you are mistaken. Skubal is on another level to everyone we have except Woo, and to be fair to Skubal, Woo hasn't won back to back Cy Young awards. Why couldn't you get a bat as well?
@MarinersSteve I guess it really depends on if they plan to compete next year right away, or if its a planned 2-3 turn around type deal. Kirby looks a lot better if you plan on going for it the next 2 years. If not though I think it starts and ends with Miller unfortunately.
@luke_arkins I get the frustration, his lack of length at times is annoying. but hes still great. Our fans sometimes could really do with watching some other players around baseball. I am quite happy with Logan, thank you very much lol.
Entering today, Cole Young had play more innings in the field than *any* big-leaguer this season. Randy Arozarena and Julio Rodríguez are also top-five. #Mariners
I always wondered how Pennsylvania could go the wrong way in key Presidential elections. Then you see the salary cap dialogue from Pirates fans and now it makes perfect sense.
@TortsIllustrtd I hate the competitiveness and fairness argument. the other leagues with salary caps experience less parity, more of the top teams in the playoffs year after year after year. it changes nothing in that regard
@PrimeWallner@suicidefrotline@AndThatsBB not to mention there are obvious examples of cheap owners running a good organization, its got nothing to do with payroll. Anyone who thinks their shit team is going to be good because the... last place Mets spend a lot of money and cant anymore is beyond help.
@michaeldf88@TheRedStripesSG Ah yes, as opposed to the known parity leagues that see nothing but the chiefs and patriots for 15 years or even worse, the NBA. How many finals were the Warriors in in a 10 year period?
“Tie the cap to league revenue” sounds fair until you realize owners spent 30 years engineering what counts as league revenue.
The Braves don’t just sell tickets. They own The Battery. Mixed-use development. Hotels. Restaurants. Parking. None of it counts as baseball related revenue.
Cubs own the rooftops across from Wrigley. Rangers built Globe Life District. Cardinals own Ballpark Village. The Mets are building a casino.
The players fill those seats and attract the fans. The players make that real estate valuable. The players are the product that turns a parking lot into a $500M development.
But Freddie Freeman’s contract counts against the cap. The Battery’s hotel revenue doesn’t count toward the pool.
The NFL cap works because owners can’t spin gate revenue into a shell LLC and hide it from the players. MLB owners can and do.
A cap tied to “league revenue” in baseball is a ceiling built on a rigged floor.