@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M They just recently moved from this location, so fair point. But what I am saying is, if you look up the schools and hospitals in NYC, you’ll see they are dotted all over the place. They aren’t in like one specific district, one specific avenue.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I agree with your logic for sure! I don’t think gov needs to do everything. I think their main goal should always be welfare of their ppl. If a policy could help protect ppl and our democratic representatives agree with the logic, then I’m fine with trying that policy.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M Yeah I am actually a car driver in the city so I totally agree we should be able to drive in the city! I think I just accept, driving in the city is (1) more inconvenient, and (2) requires a lot more restraint; than if driving on a highway, suburbs, country road.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M This is unfortunately part of the problem, especially in that neighborhood but also throughout the city, there are schools and hospitals every other corner, avenue, etc.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I think that nuance you provide in that first sentence is difficult to legislate for, especially in NYC. For example, that corner (86th and 3rd) I took a video of, there’s a private school (Dalton) right on that corner. So per your above point we should have reduced speed there.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M And that’s a fair policy proposal from you (should it be 15 mph or 20 or 25). My only other point is you kinda discount the traffic accidents as “stupid people”, but the numbers are still people (and that may not include unreported). Don’t forget that while driving!
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I agree that it is a balance between safety and ease of travel. And I appreciate that given your job you are focused on travel time. My point in rebuttal is does the policy do the least amount of harm while achieving its goals. You have inconvenience, but there are less accidents
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M You are correct things could fluctuate. My thinking with 2021 was that it was still COVID era NYC so there was less traffic overall. I don’t have numbers in front of me to prove that, just as you don’t have numbers to prove the fluctuation.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I can see where you are coming from and I agree “data” should not be the only factor considered. If there was data from another source that showed traffic accidents decreased would that change your mind that there is absolutely no benefit to the 15 mph traffic signals?
@enforcelawsNYC@Swaganomics101_@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M It is misleading because you claimed that the 15 mph traffic signals cause that specific section of 3rd Avenue to have traffic. I and others have shown you via video evidence that there are other factors (i.e. construction) that really caused the traffic you posted in that video
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I would disagree that there is no benefit. Per the NYC DOT this policy has reduced traffic accidents which as someone living in Manhattan is a huge benefit to me. Added link and snapshot below:
https://t.co/GvJiGK0a1R
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M Thanks for the info! I just think traffic happens for a lot of reasons not just one policy decision with the main goal of decreasing traffic accidents (which it has done). I am sure you would agree you see a lot of things on the streets that cause traffic beyond just this.
@Swaganomics101_@enforcelawsNYC@NYC_DOT@JulieMenin@CB8M I appreciate the information. I can’t attest to the whole 3rd avenue to be fair. I just think the video taken by @enforcelawsNYC is misleading of what actually causes traffic on 3rd in that particular section of Manhattan. How long have you noticed this issue on 3rd?