Sam Tallen

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind Clerical Celibacy was the norm in Italy and North Africa for sure, but not farther north in Europe is my point. No dig against either custom. It just isn't fair to condemn WR priests for being married when clerical marriage was popular in some sectors of the 1st millennium West.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind At the behest of the Gregorian Reforms these valid and licit clerical marriages were targeted, leading to either ripping families apart or causing priests to step down from the ministry. Helen Parrish writes about this in her book “Clerical Celibacy in the West: c.1100-1700.”

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind The custom continued amongst the Anglo-Saxons for centuries after they accepted the Gospel. St. Aelred Rievaulx (110-1167) came from a long line of married priests. Not only England, but also in East Francia (Germany) the custom was for priests to be married.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind Clerical celibacy was certainly practiced in the 1st millennium West, but it was never universally accepted. It was the custom of the ancient British church for priests to marry. St. Patrick mentions in his “Confessio” (ca. 450) that his grandfather was a priest named Potitus.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind Likewise, the Milanese and Istrian churches considered the Pope capable of surrendering the faith of Chalcedon and subsequently broke communion with Rome, thereby showing they didn’t consider unity with Rome and Catholicity to be synonymous.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind The councils of Douzy (871), Ingelheim (948), and Saint-Basle (971) demonstrate this very clearly. Of course, the North African church during its 500 year existence is well known to have been essentially autocephalous and never saw itself under Roman jurisdiction.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind Papal Monarchicalism does not have a monopoly over Pre-schism Western ecclesiology. Jacques Bossuet shows in his “Defense of the Gallican Church” that immediate and ordinary Papal jurisdiction was not accepted by the Franks during the late 1st millennium.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@IncredPapist_ Same goes for EC’s too.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@IncredPapist_ Can we please stop with the “larp” accusation. If a Western person is convinced by Orthodox claims, yet desires to retain his own Western patrimony, how is this “larping”? If larping is defined as pretending to be someone you are not, then the WR is certainly not a larp.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@strivetobekind How are Western people convinced by Orthodoxy larpers when they worship using the Western Rite?

[Pascal @KnowsPascal]

It is preferable to have the whole world against thee, than Jesus offended with thee.

-Thomas á Kempis

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@QuinnEFischer @orthobilly No if you zoom in you can see it is a man.

[That Catholic Guy 🇻🇦 @Catholic_bro]

Christ is king

[BeautyOfOrthodoxy @RxOnlyFL]

"God's love for the biggest sinner is greater than the love of the holiest man for God".

~ St. Arsenie Boca

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@ElijahElishaRap Pope St. Martin wanted Lateran Council 649 to be ecumenical and yet it is not. How would that council prove the universal acceptance of Papal monarchy?

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@OrthodoxPole81 This thesis makes sense fully in light of Western Rite Orthodoxy. God willing it grows.

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@cappadocianist @Dogmaticist Watch what you say. St. Gregory of Nyssa is a holy saint and deemed the “Father of Fathers” by the 7th Ecumenical Councils.

[chunguskitten @chunguskitten]

Well known to the smallest child,
incomprehensible to the most brilliant theologian

[꧁Ємилїѧ꧂ @tlstgrlnthwrld]

"Whoever lives in the Past is like a dead man. Whoever lives in the Future in his imagination is naive, because the Future belongs to God. The Joy of Christ is found only in the Present, in the Eternal Present of God." - Mother Gavrilia

[Sam Tallen @SamTallen4]

@jess777j0 @MimiSchizo Is has been proven otherwise