Chris Satterley

Environmental Chemist.

Deputy lay clerk, choir conductor.

Chorister/dancing dad.

Proud Lancastrian in the East Midlands.

Anglican.

Views are my own.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook The goalposts seem to move when confronted with the fact that you are factually incorrect, both on who ordered Tyndale's death and the date of Henry VIII's excommunication. Whether you believe that Henry thought he was acting as a Catholic is entirely a matter of opinion.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook Excommunicated in 1538 actually albeit from a postponed 1535 decree. Clement threatened in 1530 but only a threat.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook But he did not order the execution as is repeatedly claimed. Also remember that Henry started pursuing Tyndale in 1530 and the Act of Supremacy was not until 1534. Henry was pursuing Tyndale largely as a Catholic monarch, albeit one in disagreement with the papacy.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook Henry did indeed seek the extradition of Tyndale to stand trial, his request was rejected and so he never got a chance to order any execution. The Imperial authorities ordered the execution of Tyndale.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@lane_bandit @WWUTTcom The stuff about the treaty of Cambrai is nonsense though. Henry tried to use the treaty terms to extradite Tyndale, not order his execution.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@richkos93 @WWUTTcom This is untrue. He was arrested in the Catholic Holy Roman Empire on charges of heresy against the Catholic Church, put under the inquisition and then executed. Henry may well have wanted him dead for publicly opposing his annulment, but that does not change the facts.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@marcado_razon @is_a_Mark @HistoricalRook It was complicated indeed, but there is no record of Henry ordering Tyndale's execution or acting under any treaty with the HRE. Perhaps he might have if Tyndale had not fled England, but he did and he was arrested and executed for heresy against the catholic church.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook That well may be, but that is not the same as Henry ordering his execution as has been claimed. Tyndale had few friends at that time, but he fled England and was arrested and executed in the Catholic HRE.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@marcado_razon @is_a_Mark @HistoricalRook I am telling you that you are incorrect in claiming that Henry ordered Tyndale's death given that he was arrested by the Catholic HRE in Antwerp for heresy, put under the Inquisition and subsequently executed for heresy.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@Isaiah521313731 @HistoricalRook He was arrested and charged for heresy by the authorities of the HRE in Antwerp and put under the inquisition. This idea that Henry VIII ordered his execution in a foreign land under a still catholic emperor is quite a stretch.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@ScoutingAlong @5thHas @ServusEvangelii @HistoricalRook No it isn't, unless you believe that the Catholic Emperor of the HRE and the inquisition were taking their orders from Henry VIII.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@ServusEvangelii @HistoricalRook He was arrested in Antwerp by the HRE and charged with heresy and put under the Inquisitor Jacobus Latomus - highly unlikely that this was at the bidding of an excommunicated foreign King, even if Tyndale didn't approve of Henry's annulment.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@marcado_razon @is_a_Mark @HistoricalRook Tyndale was arrested in Antwerp by ducal forces of the HRE representing the Catholic Emperor Charles V on charges of heresy and then put under the inquisition of the Inquisitor Jacobus Latomus - both Latomus and Tyndale wrote extensively during this period.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FCarrollEsq @BrotherPhilemon @HistoricalRook This is just not true. He was arrested and charged by the forces of the HRE and its catholic emperor and put under an inquisitor.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@FlatEarthZone To be fair, much of it has had to be shored up over the years. Many English Cathedrals have stories of bits that have collapsed (Lincoln's spire for example) and have evidence of later interventions to keep the structures upright particularly in the 19th century.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@KingCrawa @cath_cov @chinmj *not *just* what they are compelled to do...

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@KingCrawa @cath_cov @chinmj Not my argument. My argument is that it is currently satisfied by the membership of the Anglican communion and that is important in that it recognises a role for ABC. Organisations are defined by what they do and participate in not what they are compelled to do or could do.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@KingCrawa @cath_cov @chinmj Yes by saying that Article III is currently satisfied by CofI's membership of the Anglican Communion which recognises a role for ABC as such. There may indeed be other ways to satisfy Article III but that is not the current situation. I think that is important.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@KingCrawa @cath_cov @chinmj Yes it was - as a direct response to the claim that the ABC was not a focus of unity because that was not mentioned in the 1870 declaration despite the fact that the CofI is a member of the Anglican Communion in 2025 which recognises the ABC as such.

[Chris Satterley @SatterleyChris]

@KingCrawa @cath_cov @chinmj The argument was that Article III is satisfied by the CofI's membership of the Anglican Communion which recognises the ABC has an international leadership role. That is the situation here in 2025.