@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Continent vs country is a very important distinction.
Big government is a buzz word that just means federal legislation that overrides state rights/autonomy. Any federal legislation that does not leave it up to states is an act of big government. Good or bad.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Slavery was not here, yes. Which means there were no africans in the colonies. When slavery started, it became endemic.
Democrats opposed the overreach of the proc. because it was taking their property. And a majority of SOUTHERNERS supported segregation. Rep/dem alike.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Yes, I did. Because at the time, those were seen as actions of federal overreach. And as we established, in a discussion about beliefs, the opinions of those alive at the time matter.
In America, slaves never had civil liberties. So there was no “giving freedom back.”
@genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Because like you said, individuals do not always reflect their party as a whole.
Biden is a sleazy man in a position to better his own life.
Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. PragerU is laden with political bias, and as such is unreliable.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas No, and you know that. Picking random parts of our hour long discussion is unhelpful.
The major party platforms have gone through a very gradual change due to presidential and legislative actions which members of said parties have disagreed with, and decided to react to.
@genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas I mentioned having a degree once. I haven’t flaunted it.
Having a degree does not make a genius, and I will never claim to be one simply for going to school. However, I will not spout political propaganda, nor will I cite it as fact. Both articles I linked are free of bias.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas I haven’t brought my emotions into this at all.
The important thing to keep in mind is that in the eyes of slaveowners, slaves had no individual freedoms. They were property. In their eyes, the government was taking their property. Now, yes giving rights is not big government.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Yes. In the eyes of the people who opposed big government, the thing that removed what they saw as their livelihood was a big government act. As was them forcing them back into the union. Its why some southern states still teach it as “the war of northern aggression.”
@genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Easy answer:
Joe biden is a sleazy politician only out for himself.
The south is full of racists. Even in the civil war, most southern republicans and democrats were both fighting for slavery. Regional biases took precedence over political opinions.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Its funny how you name the exceptions as though they aren’t evidence. FDR made a lot of democrats angry, because the new deal was too “big government”for their tastes.
Its so easy to debunk facts when you just refuse to look at them.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas I have answered you. You just refuse to listen, and cling to the bs you’ve been spoon fed.
Heres ANOTHER article for you, that goes in depth.
https://t.co/yXIxyzN8hb
But lemme guess, vague and childish because you don’t want to believe it.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Military occupation of the south after the civil war (republican). Reconstruction (republican). Emancipation proclamation (republican).
That article hasn’t been debunked. I sincerely cannot comprehend why people refuse to educate themselves. Education is not some boogeyman.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas The key word, which you are completely ignoring, is STARTED. And took a century.
The first splits and swaps happened in the 1850s. By 1980 the switch had happened completely.
This is a very short summary, but it gets the gist.
https://t.co/niR5xLMLG6
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas Again, they both switched, and over a period of almost 100 years.
The republicans were absolutely the party of big government. If the civil war were to happen today, you can bet modern democrats wouldn’t be the ones fighting for the confederacy. Hence the ideology swap.
@patriot_1776US @genio_jay @SsDilligaf@katherineOma@TheMVPGoat @SSNBubblehead @stom_jones @abigaildisney@AaronParnas It isn’t, though. In the early days of America, the republicans were the party of big government, and the democrats were the opposite. It was a gradual change starting with anti-slavery democrats in the 1850s.
Education being lies is a conspiracy theory for the uneducated.