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@TheVolunteer64 That's fine by me, thank you for the discussion and please don't take my opinions on this to be a condemnation of you or the beautiful nation of Argentina. You have a lot to be proud of.
@TheVolunteer64 Well the Chagosians live on the islands for one, two they are the genuinely native population while the Malvinas/Falklands don't have a native population. The Chagos islands dispute is being resolved and doesn't seem an equal comparison.
@TheVolunteer64 It's more rational for the reasons I've elaborated on. If there was a checklist for reasons to have a claim they'd have the most in my view. We can argue over cutting up the Island if you want but I feel that's just arguing over hypotheticals.
@TheVolunteer64 Both the major parties engaged in hostile takeovers of the island (Spain Engaging in this first). The British get to vote because there's no sense in handing over an island if the people who actually live there and have done for generations don't want to be handed over.
@TheVolunteer64 Sure the British left in part to avoid war with Spain. This isn't equivalent to giving up their claim. The British get to claim the whole archipelago because they have the most complete and rational claim to the islands. I wouldn't be opposed to sharing but the ship has sailed.
@TheVolunteer64 Spain took the islands from Britain initially, the UK came to take them back. I would agree with condominium as well but I think the 82 war destroyed the hopes of that for a while, especially in the eyes of the islanders themselves.
@TheVolunteer64 This is true, I note the spanish forcibly removed the first British colony so we're 1 for 1 on that. The 2013 vote was taken after hundreds of years of peaceful settlement thus representing the modern will of the islanders regardless of historical precedent.
@TheVolunteer64 I believe the British claim comes from having prolonged control of the island as well as discovering it and having the earliest colony out of the major parties disputing the island.
@TheVolunteer64 Britain still had a valid claim to the island at the same time the Argentinans Inherited the Spanish claim. Just because the nation holding the islands changed doesn't settle the matter until things are solved diplomatically or through lasting precedent.
@TheVolunteer64 Not at all! It proves that Argentina had a presence on the islands. But that doesn't mean they have a right to own the islands then and especially not today. It seems reasonable to ask for permission from an armed group to hunt in waters they control.
@dabenz24 they’re not. the falklands are unequivocally british. argentina has no valid claim to it except proximity. in which case i guess we as americans get argentina, bc we’re the closest major power do it and it’s our hemisphere after all