@leeroykeylock@narrative4 Schools are often in adversarial relationships with the kids who need connection the most. I was heartbroken when @narrative4 decided to use the school network as its main thoroughfare. Yes, it's a ready-made avenue, but many alienated kids are in exile from school.
@aquinasheard23 So, I just went down a very interesting path with ChatGPT. On how to eliminate public schools, its response was almost identical to your example. But deeper questions got better responses, and eventually, IT ASKED ME if I wanted to explore ways to abolish public schooling!
YES
@aquinasheard23 I'd love to see what it would say about eliminating the compulsory attendance aspect of public school. Eliminating compulsion might lead to public school's eventual collapse, but it also has emancipatory implications.
Is Claude free? Maybe I'll ask myself if you don't.
@NatureSchoolSU @aquinasheard23 How did it respond? Did it just fail to give an answer, say something illogical, or what? I'm really spooked by the way we might all be viewing the world through an AI filter of luke warm, ideological pablum.
@Wanga14@naomicfisher Yet you're the one throwing insults. I don't think I've ever read a disrespectful comment from @naomicfisher.
The idea that children need to be forced into learning doesn't make sense given that an extreme capacity for learning seems to be the defining trait of Homo Sapiens.
@naomicfisher I've been convinced for ages that the ways in which school trains kids to see their own desires and impulses as mere distractions from what's truly important causes deep individual and societal dysfunction. It’s distressing to see people respond to your clarity as hostility.
@stopvaccinating I remember one from high school and one severely autistc child my sister babysat for. Both in the 70s. Also, you need to remember that kids were separated into special ed classes that most of us had no contact with. Just because you didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't there
@DrMcFillin And the abusive environment is often school. People seem to see school as a haven for kids from abusive homes but fail to see how dysfunctional and abusive school is. Yet, the failure to succeed, or thrive, or just comply at school is what usually drives these bullshit diagnoses.
@wilplatypus This kind of material abundance combined with the objectification of kids as the output of schooling teaches some messed-up values.
I wonder what percentage of the kids at this school are on antidepressants - or will be when they age out into the actual world.
@5002Egg @4LOVofScience Higher education is a luxury item.
Higher education has always been skewed to the wealthy, but it's a mistake to confuse that correlation for causation.
@naomicfisher The biggest fear might be that children won't independently gravitate toward the same learning goals the adults see as necessary. Which is likely true. The control of education is driven by the desire to control the greater culture. Freedom of thought would break the status quo.
@ScholarshipfPhd Compulsory attendance laws. Everyone needs to be allowed to opt out at any time with no repercussions. They also need to be allowed back at any time. The entire system would change to something we haven't imagined yet.
@NoetheMatt This is a misrepresentation of the issue. The article says a parent can sign a consent form, presumably once, giving their child full access rights to the entire library from then on.
Isn't this about state authority vs. parental authority?
Either one can be oppressive.
@crav_mfl @naomicfisher Smartphones are an easy scapegoat. Smartphones might magnify existing dynamics, but they aren't a root cause of current problems
@psychgeist52 "My disorder was not a disease or an enemy to be fought, but it was real. It was the part of me who always knew I was worth protecting." Rose Cartwright
Rather than facilitating personal growth, forced schooling has the potential to make kids disturbingly accustomed to their autonomy and consent being disregarded, making them more vulnerable to abuse.
@mikeamark This is fascinating and seems to describe free will as a social construct related to taking responsibility. Relatedly, I dont have a free will concept but take full responsibility for the consequences of my actions, beyond what most would, in the "extreme ownership" mold.