Christian dude can’t out-logic his own confession hence blocked me.
Again, if an aborted baby goes to heaven then by that logic abortion should be promoted. Such philosophies fail without the concept of reincarnation and prarabdh karma.
@Biwisiwarrior@sensitveyungbih Please, Abrahamism can’t stand even one objection successfully. For eg. a simple question will break it down - What does a child aborted in the womb achieve? Heaven or hell.
@sensitveyungbih You’re naive. If science was cast out its deliberate naturalistic cage then progress would have been 1000x better. Right now it’s hardly any progress. People have everything yet still hardly happy. We are unhappier than ever. Mental health disease, crime, wars are skyrocketing.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels The colour is qualia. Qualia requires a non-material medium to be explained. The mind is also requires a non-material explanation, since nothing can explain it. Coupled with various documented cases of NDEs, OBEs, reincarnation, ghosts etc. the case is clear.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels See creating a ChatGPT infographic for integrated information theory wouldn’t help. This is not a philosophical topic rather an experiential one. The subject matter that integrated information theory cannot even remotely address successfully is still qualia. Nothing explains it.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels Not at all. It seems like you do not know that the colour red or any colour does exist. It does not exist anywhere in reality, except in our own mind. Your fundamentals are way off buddy. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you. You’re not really thinking.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels It is not a belief because as defined it is the self. The self is not a belief. Qualia the only thing that actually matters is not only unexplainable but categorically explained by only the self.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels One can engineer and program a model to appear human, act completely like a human. But that’s all it does, it mimics actions as programmed and nothing else. It knows neither colour, pleasure or pain. This is not science fiction.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels What you’re portraying is just a belief. You’re holding onto a belief instead of seeing the reality before you. Reality is that qualia is your experience. AI can at best mimick what we input. It is incapable of experiencing anything. It doesn’t know colour, pleasure or pain.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels In fact no materialistic scientist has been able to demonstrate or explain it empirically. It is deliberately known as the hard problem of consciousness. Your entire experience is qualia based and no scientist can address it without extending to supra-natural explanation.
@thedesihobbit@indiainpixels Subjective experience or qualia is supra-natural, since naturalistic science not only cannot explain it but also cannot detect it at all, not even partly. Your conditional stone analogy is also unfounded since again it doesn’t address qualia actually.