@pictureubroken@foidwithnoname@OmarClunis2006@_beaniebaby_03 You don't matter as much as the billionaires, do you believe it's okay for a billionaire to muгdег you just because he believes the plebs don't matter much?
Is it even okay for someone to put a cat in a blender just because the cat isn't "people"?
@pictureubroken@OmarClunis2006@_beaniebaby_03 The baby doesn't have to dіе, vivian.
That's the point. You don't kіll someone just because you have a low likelihood of surviving their medical condition, be it in the womb or outside of it.
@OmarClunis2006@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 It's post-hoc justification of conformism
They don't form their own opinions through thinking but rather listen to the social consensus around them and internalize it.
They can't give you logical arguments when they didn't need any to arrive at their position in the first place
@maribooboo7@pictureubroken@absolutelunati@_beaniebaby_03 "There's no way you can save a baby with a ventricular septal defect"
That was the medical consensus back in the 40s.
It's not the consensus today. Now it has near-zero mortality rate after surgery.
Hello.
@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 That's the only category of consciousness that can be reasonably measured, you can't know whether an infant at X stage of development has or doesn't have consciousness any more than I can know if you have it.
Completely unreasonable approach to ethics.
@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 There is no way of measuring if a baby experiences consciousness, or at which stage of life it appears, but if behaviour is an indicator, the unborn have it.
People knocked unconscious aren't conscious by definition, so you say it's okay to kіll them. A simple ethical loophole?
@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 1. Not true, you don't have to be fully conscious or have a fully functional brain to feel pain. Otherwise it's fine to tогtuге people who had a stroke. Or animals, since their brains are less developed.
2. The "muгdег - terminating a pregnancy" distinction is semantic
@pictureubroken@absolutelunati@_beaniebaby_03 Because medical science is advanced through trying to save people in hopeless medical condition. A few decades ago children were dying or left permanently disabled from what today requires a simple surgery.
Besides, the same can be said by nеtаnуаhu about children in Gaza.
@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 1. You don't know that, and in fact science overwhelmingly says otherwise. A baby can feel pain long before most medical conditions can even be screened for.
2. An adult under anesthesia can't feel pain, therefore you say it's okay to muгdег people if you knock them out first.
@pictureubroken@_beaniebaby_03 1. There's a chance they will survive (with this one, a good chance, there's many survivors)
2. It gives an opportunity to advance medicine and prevent the condition from being deadly in the future
3. It's generally less brutal to die under anesthesia than being ripped apart
@absolutelunati@_beaniebaby_03 Not a false equivalency. Learn what words mean.
Medical condition -> very low chance of survival due to inadequate level of medical advancement -> kіllіng the person instead of trying to save them -> justifying kіllіng in general
@SDebeluhar@CivilModerate The condition pictured is very dangerous but you can survive it with medical care and after the damaged layer is shed, you're left with generally functional skin (though it does require care)
Are you a Christian?