My pride put me out of the garden,
But His love placed the garden within me.
if I gave up everything I own
in exchange for his love, I'd fall short.
Because His love is beyond purchase,
It's not something we deserve.
His love is a gift,
Given by Grace and recieved through faith.
John 4:34 (ESV)
Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work.”
John 17:4 (ESV)
I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do.
John 19:30 (ESV)
When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
John 6:28-29 (ESV)
They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
John 6:40 (ESV)
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV)
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
It’s almost like you guys don’t take Gods word seriously.
John 4:34 (ESV)
Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work.”
John 17:4 (ESV)
I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do.
John 19:30 (ESV)
When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
John 6:28-29 (ESV)
They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
John 6:40 (ESV)
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV)
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
“I truly don’t think that it’s conflicting with my religion at all…If I sin, I know that He will forgive me. If I wasn’t meant to be here, I wouldn’t be here. He wouldn’t have put me in this position.”
The world’s top-earning OF digital prostitute says she’s Christian. I have seen it all.
@MikePagano87@Brosephos Honestly, you’re still fairly new to X, so the best advice I can give you is to block guys like this and focus on engaging with honest, more thoughtful Roman Catholics who are interested in having productive discussions.
Even if AI helped formulate the argument, why focus on its source instead of addressing the argument itself? Whether an argument came from AI, a pastor, a professor, or a book has no bearing on whether it’s true or false. If the argument is wrong, show where the reasoning fails. Otherwise, dismissing it because AI was involved is a genetic fallacy.
I once heard a man who grew up in a satanic cult in Central America say that they would only attempt their witchcraft in Roman Catholic neighborhoods, but never around Prots/evangelicals, because it simply wouldn't work on them, and often backfired on them terribly.
You’re assuming that if the Father is the only true God, then Jesus must be a different god. I don’t believe Jesus is a different god from the Father. The Father is the only true God, and the Son shares the same divine nature. That’s why John can say the Word was with God and was God without teaching two Gods.
The context shows that Thomas was not merely making an exclamation, He wasn’t speaking into the air; he was responding directly to Jesus. As for “no Jew would call Jesus God” you’re right, that’s exactly why his statement matters. A strict monotheistic Jew would not address a mere man as “My Lord and my God.”
John doesn’t say:
“The Word was with a god, and the Word was another god.”
He says the Word was with God and the Word was God.
In other words, the Word is distinct from God the Father (“with God”) and yet fully shares the divine identity (“was God”).
So when you ask, “Who is the other God?” my answer is: there isn’t another God.
The Word is not another God alongside the Father. The Word shares the same divine nature as the Father.
That’s why John can say the Word was with God and was God without teaching two Gods.
@khayri05@Kryptotajeer There is not an “Other” God in John 1:1.
John says the Word was WITH God (distinction of persons) and the Word WAS God (unity of deity).
That’s exactly why we don’t say the Son is the Father, and exactly why we don’t say there are three Gods.
The Father is the only true God according to Jesus (John 17:3). Trinitarians agree.
The question is whether Jesus is excluding himself from deity or distinguishing himself from the Father. The same Gospel says “the Word was God” (John 1:1) and records Thomas calling Jesus “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28).
So John 17:3 cannot simply mean “Jesus is not God.” We read John 17:3 in the context of John’s entire Gospel, we do not isolate one phrase and ignore everything else John says about Jesus.