Well said. A point that seems blindingly obvious to me but seems to have escaped all those who have spent the last 24 hours criticising us for simply raising the problems we wrote about. Thank you.
@MRadford_DONi @DanBeale1 @ShittyNursing @maxwele2 @alisonleary1@BJNursing@SteveJFord@fussy1958@CathyWinfield @SafetySamFoster @SamSherrington 100% of NMC registrants are caring & compassionate but1% in 2017/2018 found themselves before FtP panel What is of concern is that just 3% of referrals were from other registrants but 24% from the public.
Is it the public that protect themselves/others
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Shame. 1. The account is the title of the article and carries the narrative. We have not trolled anyone, rather the reverse it seems that we are experiencing that. 2. Inflammatory? Please read us again. Our experiences as patients are NOT inflammatory!
@ShittyNursing Again, why is it that you feel the necessity to be both anonymous (albeit thinly veiled) & be deliberately inflammatory ?
Based on 10yrs of researching online behaviour this is how trolls behave
As a mental health professor you should be above this
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@acadenyx @83dkinnersley Hi Holly, we are real, the account is the title of the article and our identities are not anonymous since we wrote it. We wanted an account that specifically addressed this issue, not personal ones. Most organisations have this kind of account too.
Err, that's all our article is trying to do to Mark. So why the defensiveness? There are service users in this twitter discussion as well as nurses. Listen to them here as you profess to do in your professional life.
@DanBeale1 @ShittyNursing @maxwele2 @alisonleary1@BJNursing@SteveJFord@fussy1958@CathyWinfield @SafetySamFoster @SamSherrington I call it out in every role and organisation that I worked as a nurse. I do so now in my role directly with organisations that I visit and via patients and service users who contact me - I don’t deny there are problems with poor care. Do I post that on twitter , no.
James, we were not blaming. Please read the full article (I can send it to you) because we wrote it out of concern for the potentially broken contract between patients and nursing. 'Recognition, refocus and research'.
So sorry to hear that but brave of you to share given the many negative responses in this twitter discussion to people like us - nurses and patients - who want to draw attention to shitty nursing. Thanks
Actually, quite the reverse. I was inspired by poor nursing 35 years ago to join the profession. The best nurses are the ones that want to make the difference and change the profession for the better. Recognition is essential first though.
@ShittyNursing I’ve said many times it really is an important article/ debate. But as @kaye_rolls said better than I ... ‘by using the pejorative this twitter handle is inevitably polarising & may not have the desired effect your article seems want to achieve.’
@MRadford_DONi @maxwele2 @ShittyNursing@alisonleary1@BJNursing@SteveJFord@fussy1958 @SafetySamFoster @SamSherrington Absolutely I have sat across from many families where my teams have let families down and I admit and want to work with families to help get them a resolution and learn from what w shave got wrong
@ShittyNursing No, where care is delivered clinicians deliver care that is acceptable to the the local social group of clinicians. 30 yrs of implementation science & now practice development supports this https://t.co/CxLvICaOOw
Thank you for your story. I 'liked' it but that of course is not the emotion I mean to convey. I know there are far too many other examples like this that are not due to 'context' or 'bad apples'. We will be grateful for others sharing likewise.
@ShittyNursing@RoseAnnieFlo@IJNSJournal I'm literally sat in the pub & my friend has told me a story about trying to have an IUD inserted without pain relief, it being so intense she had to stop, nearly fainted, and the nurse's words were:"Well how are you going to deal with having a baby if you can't do this?!"(2012)
@ShittyNursing That being said there will be 'bad apples' in good clinical contexts & vice versa
Secondly the lack of quality research on nursing practices is a function of many things, most esp funding. That being said we do need to do more research on nursing interventions
@kaye_rolls Thank you. I think our point is that 'acceptable' is nothing like that at all, and is far too common to be a statistical anomaly. Professions act independently whatever the context - that is the contract we have with society. Is it broken for nursing?
The only lived experience I'm getting so far is a bunch of cross nurses, to which of course you are fully entitled. My private correspondence suggests we are not alone in our experiences of shitty nursing, harder for people to say in public I guess.
@ShittyNursing I entirely agree with you that lived experience is vital vehicle to understand aspect of agency through research. As I’ve said , the debate you offer is the right one . Is it seeking out all lived experience ?
or....more important to use the language of ordinary people. Our experiences were truly shitty. Many others too. Nursing will get nowhere without a more humble approach. See our first suggestion for a way forward