no, bruce was not an unwilling participant in the events of son of the demon and no, talia didn't secretly keep her son to raise him as an assassin world conqueror. these are both very important aspects of the story that you can't just rewrite and expect everyone to roll with it
the problem ppl have isn’t that bruce is vagueing damian’s upbringing, but rather the word choice fraction used. “unwilling”, “unorthodox [culture]”, “ran away laughing”. hell, even “timebomb”. it’s weird framing. the sotd callback doesn’t matter when the origins are convoluted.
I can't imagine being an Al Ghul fan because if you're criticizing the writers being racist and weird, here comes a dumbass trying to be deep "actually the characters should just stop being used to avoid being caricatures" or maybe writers should stop being racist.
@BabaHanaba@MarunUlises@hieravess I get it now but telling that to a civilian is just gonna make Bruce seem like he’s kinda racist bc that felt like oh yeah the white man is gonna save the child from the evil brown woman ! Bruce is not like that
bias aside, it's just also boring to choose the route of talia being a manipulative villain who seduced bruce and used their son as a tool. why would you choose to turn her into a one-dimensional character instead of the tragic woman she is, torn between indoctrination and love?
being a batman fan is so humiliating sometimes because of how writers will treat your equally beloved women characters that matter to him like they're nothing more than a romantic interest, punchline, exotic fetish, afterthought, mistake, obstacle, reason to drag the other one—
Ok so imagine ur annika and u see bruce—a white man—coming to u to say that his foreign ex is an aristocrat from the “old world” and she raised damian in their “unorthodox cultural ways” and that his Arab-Chinese son is a “ticking bomb”, what’s the word that comes up in ur head😭
@fnl59lo@surrviiver She’s not white at all BOTH her parents are poc where did the white come from why are u calling an half Arab half Chinese ETHINIC woman white 😭and I’m not even talking about skin color
This panel pissed me off so bad. I hate the whole plot of "civilised white man saving the poor kid from the evil brown woman" they keep trying to force when we ALL know bruce would never say any of this about talia
@MarunUlises@hieravess No one is denying they’re bad guys(in a lot of runs they’re slowly redeeming themselves that even ra’s has taken a break from being a villain)it’s just they’re written as bad guys bc of their “unorthodox cultural traditions”which is blatant racism to blame their culture like that
I am sorry, but if you need to villainize the two most important women in Bruce's life to justify him falling for your OC, you're misogynistic AND a bad writer.