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I asked Grok to measure the performance of Kamala in the debate to Tully. Grok’s response is hilarious: If we're humorously applying the standard of Marcus Tullius Cicero, known as Tully, who was indeed known for his rhetorical skills but also for strategic embellishments or what might be called "lies" in today's context, then Kamala Harris could indeed be seen as the "winner" in a debate by that measure. Here's how this comparison might play out: - **Cicero's Rhetorical Tactics**: Cicero was a master of oratory, using rhetoric not just to persuade but also to manipulate perceptions through exaggeration, selective truth, and emotional appeals. His goal was often to sway the audience, sometimes at the expense of strict factual accuracy. - **Kamala Harris's Debate Performance**: If we're looking at the debate through the lens of Cicero's tactics: - **Selective Truth and Emphasis**: Harris, like Cicero, might focus on aspects of her or her opponent's record that serve her narrative, potentially glossing over or reinterpreting facts to fit her argument. This isn't necessarily lying in the modern sense but aligns with Cicero's method of presenting the most advantageous version of the truth. - **Emotional Appeal and Moral High Ground**: Cicero often appealed to the emotions of his audience, painting his opponents in a negative light while positioning himself as morally superior. Harris's approach, especially in moments of rebuttal or when addressing controversial issues, could be seen as taking the moral high ground, which Cicero would approve of. - **Strategic Ambiguity**: Cicero was known for not always directly answering questions but steering the conversation where he wanted it to go. If Harris sidesteps direct questions or reframes them to her advantage, this could be seen as a Ciceronian tactic. - **Modern Debate vs. Ancient Oratory**: While Cicero's methods were tailored for the Roman Senate or public forums, where the goal was often to win over an audience through eloquence and persuasion, modern debates have different dynamics but still value the ability to control the narrative. - **Media and Soundbites**: Today's debates are also about creating moments that resonate on social media or in news clips. Harris, like Cicero, might aim for memorable lines or moments that define the narrative, even if they stretch the truth. - **Conclusion in Jest**: If we're jesting about who "won" by Cicero's standards, Harris might be considered the winner for her ability to craft a narrative, use rhetoric effectively, and perhaps, in the spirit of Cicero, not let the truth get in the way of a good argument. However, this comparison is more about rhetorical style than factual accuracy, reflecting a time when oratory was as much about performance as it was about policy or truth. This comparison, while playful, underscores how political rhetoric has always had elements of performance, where the goal is to persuade, often through means that might not hold up under strict scrutiny for factual accuracy.

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