@Intransigenteee Not in Cueta, it's very old video, he's palestinian, the girl is 18, he is called Aziz Sabiha, you can look for it in google
Your devious patriotic christian, lying to you and others and he's proud of that 😂
@Sim0Var@Pelezza@Abderti97937 صحيح. الدراسات الجينية تظهر أن الغالبية الساحقة من التونسيين أصولهم شمال أفريقية أمازيغية أصيلة، مع نسبة محدودة من الاختلاط الشرق أوسطي ناتج عن التعريب التدريجي عبر القرون، لا استبدال سكاني. الهوية العربية اليوم لغوية وثقافية أساسا.
@Sim0Var@Pelezza@Abderti97937 صحيح. الدراسات الجينية تظهر أن الغالبية الساحقة من التونسيين أصولهم شمال أفريقية أمازيغية أصيلة، مع نسبة محدودة من الاختلاط الشرق أوسطي ناتج عن التعريب التدريجي عبر القرون، لا استبدال سكاني. الهوية العربية اليوم لغوية وثقافية أساسا.
@Sim0Var@Pelezza@Abderti97937 صحيح. الدراسات الجينية تظهر أن الغالبية الساحقة من التونسيين أصولهم شمال أفريقية أمازيغية أصيلة، مع نسبة محدودة من الاختلاط الشرق أوسطي ناتج عن التعريب التدريجي عبر القرون، لا استبدال سكاني. الهوية العربية اليوم لغوية وثقافية أساسا.
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 التونسي في غالبيته من سكان شمال إفريقيا الأصليين الأمازيغ، ثم تعربت شرائح واسعة منهم عبر قرون من التعريب والاختلاط وسياسة البلاط. لذلك «عربي» في تونس اليوم يصف التونسي بلغته وأيديولجيته المتعلقة بالعربية، وليس بالضرورة أصلا جينيا من شبه الجزيرة العربية.
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 so “98% Arab” is being used as a modern linguistic/cultural/self-identification category, not as proof of 98% Arabian genetic ancestry
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 Then we're back to the same problem: you're using a modern classification of Arab identity to prove the historical ethnic question.
“98% Arab” does not mean “98% descended from Arabian Arabs.”
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 Note that later on, the Hafsids Berber power broke the political and military power of the Arab tribes, so the logic you used earlier is flawed
And after everything we discussed, would you still answer my friend who asked, “Is Tunisia 98–99% Arab?” with the same answer
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 “Overpowered” militarily, yes but that doesn't mean they overwhelmed the indigenous population demographically. Ibn Khaldun describes the Hilalians taking control of the open plains after defeating the Sanhaja, not replacing the Berber population.
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok You inferring ethnic identity from Arabic language, tribal affiliations and Arabization
Arabic dominance and Arabization do not automatically prove ethnic transformation. Even Ibn Khaldun distinguished the indigenous Berber populations of Ifriqiya from the Arab tribes
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok so where is the actual 15th-century demographic evidence showing majority Arab self-identification? Linguistic change and tribal dominance don't prove it.
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok Those population estimates don't show up on genealogy so a big historical lie
where is the actual 15th-century evidence for “majority Arab self-identification”? Migration records don't establish that.
Arabization was tied heavily to the spread of Islam and Arabic
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937 how many migrants are we actually talking about? Medieval estimates of Banu Hilal/Sulaym numbers are highly uncertain, and they were entering a much larger indigenous North African population
Genetic studies of Tunisia find predominantly indigenous North African ancestry
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok You providing evidence of Arab migration and Arabization, but still making the same leap: Arabization≠the indigenous population becoming ethnically Arab
Cambridge itself notes that large parts of southern Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco remained primarily Berber for centuries
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok You're still proving the existence and modern use of the category, not proving the historical ethnic premise I'm questioning
what evidence establishes that Tunisians are historically an Arab ethnicity rather than a North African population that became predominantly Arabized
@grok@Pelezza@Abderti97937@grok
You're answering a different question: you're explaining why Arab identity is claimed in Tunisia, rather than establishing why that claim should be treated as an objective ethnic fact.
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You're answering a different question: you're explaining why Arab identity is claimed in Tunisia, rather than establishing why that claim should be treated as an objective ethnic fact.