Raymund Fossoway casually dropping that Planetos is actually post-apocalyptic because the Targaryens and therefore the Valyrians are aliens is hilarious
@JackPosobiec Because Faegon is just as likely to be a complete rando as he is to be a Blackfyre, a dragonseed, or someone of Valyrian blood it’s deliberately ambiguous, so we’ll probably never know.
So it’s around here that either Bran Stark or Bloodraven started playing 4D cheese, warged into Maekar, and began rearranging the dominoes to get Egg on the throne… or the Kingsguard off camera smacked Baelor on the head a few extra times. Take your pick.
@Thel4342 That doesn’t prove anything. Fevre Dream and Skin Trade are both written with the same deliberate ambiguity GRRM uses everywhere else he plays with magic, but always leaves the door open for a sci-fi explanation underneath. GRRM’s whole thing is blurring the lines.
Raymund Fossoway casually dropping that Planetos is actually post-apocalyptic because the Targaryens and therefore the Valyrians are aliens is hilarious
@Thel4342 It’s still written to be ambiguous, though. GRRM uses forgotten magic as a narrative style, but he never confirms it is magic he leaves space for sci fi interpretations on purpose. Calling it high fantasy doesn’t suddenly make the mechanics clear or literal.
@Thel4342 GRRM is a sci-fi writer first, and his “magic” is basically soft sci-fi in disguise. Warging, shadows, dragons, prophecies, it’s all psionics, not gods.
@Thel4342 The Wall and the Doom don’t prove real magic; they just show people using words they understand. Ancient tech or telepathy can explain all of it. Triggering volcanoes doesn’t require gods, and Planetos feeling post-apocalyptic actually fits sci-fi
@Thel4342 No, there are no gods in ASOIAF. Nothing ever shows up, speaks, or intervenes. Everything people call “divine” can be explained through sci-fi logic, telepathy, psychic projection, and ancient knowledge people don’t understand anymore.
@Thel4342 Raymun doesn’t need to know what an ET is the story does. The characters speak in the language for thematic reasons, not historical knowledge.
@Thel4342 Sure, “alien” has meant foreigner for centuries in the real world, but context matters. The writers love deliberate ambiguity. Between the post-apocalyptic theories, Valyrian “magic” that might just be lost science, and how often the books play with double meanings.
@Thel4342 If the Valyrians came from a far older, advanced civilisation, their tech would naturally look like sorcery. To them, it’s magic; to us, it could easily be lost science.