Eh, I will bite one last time with a wasted effort post:
Fuentes isn't representative of a White nation. Groypers are not representative of a White future. Watching a mix raced effeminate dude give his take on shit and having an AI voice read out the paid for comments isn't "saving the White race".
He represents a historically unrepresented portion of society, so will be worshipped by them no matter what I and others say. That portion is not the White race, but elements of that race (along with other races or combinations of) that fall below standards (behaviorally, physically, etc). A number of social rejects that have swollen since bullying was punished and continue to swell. Is every Groyper that? No, but a majority are and behave as such online (their main area of existence due to this status).
What this boils down to is rejection:
Society never rejected me, nor many of those that hold similar/same beliefs as I. Our opinions, observations and beliefs were rejected... not us nor our behavior. We are not socially awkward or disgynic. In turn, we care about our society and don't explicitly blame it or want to see the healthy elements of it harmed in an attempt to channel change. We embrace a standard much older than ourselves. We may kid as if we are, but we aren't.
It really seems the opposite is true from Fuentes and his end. The comments, beliefs and opinions heavily rely on the edge of the talking points. The suggestions and support rely on the shock value of the topic or are designed to appeal to rejects. Cat boys, bi-polar black rappers, named fan clubs, MGTOW (skirting or whole) mentality, punching right against certain real standards... these are all signs of a movement designed to entice rejected elements of society that have a bone to pick with it. The jokes some of us told about ourselves were taken seriously and hinged on as a rallying cry, by more than just Fuentes and Groypers, but they are one visible representation of it.
It is why we make fun of him and his ardent supporters, it is no different than bullying the social rejects. In better times those rejects would attempt to align, even if it meant developing a glowing personality despite permanent flaws, and assimilate. That time is behind us, so we have these rejects flooding online to defend a charasmatic representative of a standard deemed too low/odd by those of us that are not angry at classical societal norms.
The dysgenic, mentally ill and rejected elements of the left share more in common with these people than we do. One just wields edge and the other wields misplaced empathy, but the overall goal isn't much different: To wrestle power for themselves as they never had power before.
Those like me just wish to return power to those who had it before, the rightful ones and exclude elements deemed rejected in a healthy society. We dislike a society with White trannies, White furries, White degenerates, etc. as much as a society with non-Whites as both are not true representation of societal health.
So, when you see someone making fun of Fuentes they probably aren't completely socially rejected, just their opinions and beliefs. They don't have piss bottles, or skip showers while discussing Assassin's Creed online, they have opportunities to start families and don't throw money at a dude online to hear his opinion on their question or have their thought validated. They don't wear fursuits, or chronically masturbate. They aren't a combination of mental and physical traits that left them alone. If they were bullied for traits, they adjusted what they could and went on to be societally normal.
That is probably the most effort I will spend on this subject and it will, undoubtedly, get neither of us anywhere assuming the attention span is there, which commonly isn't due to behavioral incompatibilities with such individuals (ie. It isn't Fuentes talking so I can't pay attention).
tl;dr: We don't respect him nor those that chronically orbit him.
This push for "Christian Nationalism" isn't organic. Not one of our countries was successfully formed or maintained based upon a religious criteria, but instead a people.
A majority of which, throughout a good chunk of history, yes were Christian but this false belief that was the binding factor won't fix our situation.
Our countries weren't labeled "The Christian Land of..." or "The Christian Nation of..."
Look at the size of churches throughout most of our lands. Most weren't large enough to cram the entirety of the population in them because they weren't the mandatory forced national identity, the people were.
This is nothing against Christianity, but it also isn't the driving factor of our nations. Our racial identity was until propaganda started to push that racial identity didn't exist (outside of the evil racists of the times) and instead our religion was. Our religion was important, but wasn't the binding factor and by making it such you agree to play by the rules of sacrificing that racial identity.
Almost every single one of us lives in an area with at least one Christian church, where Christians go and honor their beliefs. Go put up a Whites only institution next to it, see if that is allowed to remain like that church.
Have a Christian and an Agnostic stand next to a violent non-White and see if he takes that into account. Put on a shirt with "Proud Christian" and go to Wal-Mart. Then make the trip in a shirt that says "Proud White Man" and take note of which one is going to draw negative attention more.
None of the founding principles of our country were based upon Christian values, they were based upon White values agreed upon by Christians, Diests and Agnotisics alike. They didn't whip open the Bible to find the rules, they looked at their racial people and inside themselves and determined them. Even down the the fact God and Providence was mentioned, but not Christ. (People have a hard time realizing how many people at the founding believed in God, which is completely human, but weren't necessarily Christian in practice.)
One can point to WASP settlers, true. They were an initial group that arrived, as the numbers of us swelled (both more coming and births of the colonists) we went back to a natural state of multiple different beliefs within a White society. Something we have historically seen in every one of our countries throughout history.
This is a false light at the end of the tunnel, one that isn't possible to reach. Doesn't have much historical basis, just what they want you to replace race with. Like every White country, religious beliefs are going to be varied. By cramming one in as the defining aspect, you lose. Maybe you lose with your head held high, but in the end Christianity (as we know it) dies with us and is replaced by black Baptist musical worship and South American and black voodoo combinations of it. Christianity is what we know of it due to us and how we practice it.
I am happy for my Christian brothers and sisters. They found answers that they unwaveringly believe and the comfort that comes with that, but isn't the defining element of our countries and won't be.
Every time we have tried to make a White country a religious aspect we have made detrimental mistakes. We allow "conversions" of enemies, we make racial matters second, we invite in trouble and a good sized portion uncomfortably pretends to believe and resents the transformation leading to turmoil within that only settles when Whites, once again, can come to their own individual conclusions and feel safe doing so.
Don't twist my words, this is fictional but by that I do not mean Christianity. Christianity is very real, whether that be in the overall sense or in the will of the believers. This illusion that our nation is only saved by Christianity is. False marketing.
Gonna effort reply you here, man:
Have to keep in mind, much like Antifa, Commies and "Progressive" Troons, we have socially dysgenic / arrested development men. "Movements" like this are just ones that parrot our talking points, but only because they are considered socially taboo (edgy) and not out of true desire for societal health. You can always tell because they eventually turn on prime examples of healthy society/actions (physically fit White men, the concept of family, intelligence, organization, etc.)
Modernity created these people and modern technology has allowed them to group up and even blend (due to the anonymous nature of communication) with those of us with the goal of true societal health and the desire for healthy racial examples.
From mulattos that find our talking points funny, guys with secret sick fetishes, socially dysgenic dudes that haven't showered in two weeks... they all exist in real numbers and find the societally taboo nature of our values, ideals and information as an interesting means to offend the masses of people that reject them. The most ardent, hardcore, Groypers are these people. They love the offensive nature but hate the actual values associated with them, and that bleeds through everything they say and do. (Much of the quality of a Groyper's discourse is almost indecipherable from that of a Pajeet, the most socially dysgenic race on the planet.)
As for the "big names" that celebrate this, it varies. Some are accidentally caught into it because of that superficial meaningless crossover of talking points, some don't have any standards and see a following built of loyal sludge that they can tap into, some see that these elements are cinderblocks that hold our movement(s) down and advocate we tie ourselves to it so that we drown because they work against us.
Regardless, the future isn't theirs. There will be no successful cracked closet homosexual, bullied, edgy mulatto manlet, 2d hand drawn porn uprising the same way there will be no successful commie zone ran by Antifa and purple haired landwhales.
That is a demographic improbability, at best. Instead, why don't we start realizing we are losing territory and focus on saving the areas we still demographically hold?
This movie tactics shit is getting old and not working. No, the good guys do not just automatically win because their heart is in the right place and Yes, you need a defensive position to eventually regain what you lost.
Now think about the fact that a large portion of our people (only stopping short of saying the majority because I don't feel like blackpilling before bed) do the exact opposite and assume that each one of them is a saint until they've been victimized, then it was the "individual."
Generations of people being told that the solution to any national issue is democratic processes. That they are the only solution. Elections rigged? We'll have to vote it to be fair again. Demographically replaced? Vote them away. We just need a party of approved people that have been fully vetted by the system in order to fix the corruption of the system.
Democracy has always suffered from a mid-wit problem. Wasn't much of an issue when all of the mid-wits shared the same values, heritage and general desires. Huge problem when you need the mid-wits to start thinking about alternatives.
Yeah. A lot of people don't seem to realize that a lot of our people were agnostic and general diests, even back to the founding and even back to the colonies. Atheists? Less common, not out of fear of repercussions but out of the fact there were too many unanswered questions and people didn't have the free time for internal theological journies. These non-Christians contributed, equally, to the creation of this country in the same way they contributed to every one of our countries.
Funny how as they started to propaganda us away from a racial identity they started telling us this was a Christian nation. Selling that every person was saying grace at a table but only the evil slave owner saw things racially. Why? They already knew a large subset of Whites didn't identify as as Christians, so by making that aspect the unifying national identity they narrow membership of that identity down to something more manageable. "You must have an identity aside from White to form and maintain a nation."
If one is a staunch Christian I am happy for them, they found their answers, but our racial identity is what was robbed from us. We have Christian churches in every town in the US. That isn't the target. Start up a Whites only institution and see how fast that is shut down. Go knocking door to door for Christ, then try going door to door for Whites and see how fast the police show up. Put a sign up in your yard that says "I am a proud Christian" versus "I am a proud White man" and see which is the one that makes the local news.
With that said, I can't undo generations of guided priority away from the one thing that actually unifies us. The one thing truly robbed, our racial identity.
This was common in the 90s. They would haul the lowest examples of our people that repeated (I won't say shared) our talking points (almost always due to a prison stint) and make it seem like racial realism was a side effect of meth and bad choices.
Worked well too.
They do similar things now, just online with socially dysgenic mulattos and accounts that look like they are ran by an edgy 13 year old.
@No_Platitudes@goodguyracist In my 40s too. Want to see it, not for myself, but so I know my kids and eventual grandkids have a future better than mine.
The wiseness of seizing control of Haiti is fully dependent on whether or not Haitians exist afterwards. This shit where we pop in, fix everything, leave/get driven off and wasted time and money along with the fact that "now that we control X area the people of X area get to come here" has been a thorn in our ass for generations.
Even with that said, the argument of him being Austrian doesn't really even matter. Playing the game of "but this White person is from this named area" just disregards the fact that Whites care, deeply, about whatever area they end up and work for the best for that area and those people, even if their ancestors came from a different White area originally. A White Australian that moves to Scotland is going to wish for the best for Scotland and support his people. Even with the fact we can't seem to think racially, our natural values are still racial and historically we try to do what is right by whatever ground we stand on.
@goodguyracist Don't worry, someone will come along to justify this with some personal game of "who is White in my eyes" because they lack the ability to detect their own.
Half believe these people exist to destroy credibility for any "conspiracy" sounding talking points. They love to blend mildly right wing talking points with "One Simple Trick..." bullshit that a majority of people with IQs higher than the temp on an Autumn Evening have learned to avoid.
With as much disdain I have for boomers, the way they behave, their values and how quickly they throw future generations under the bus... this isn't happening and pretending it is doesn't alleviate the problem.
Large swaths of Gen Z have no desire to work in these fields. The ones that do, which are much rarer than Millenials (who already shunned these fields in large numbers) frequently get hired and make good employees because they have reasonable expectations.
This is similar to the false assumption that illegals are doing a lot of these jobs (some are, but the majority are not.)
These jobs aren't what are desired by the modern people. They want the life advertised by streamers, regardless of where they come from.
This is very similar to the Commie Gardens in their zones: Each expects the next person knows what they are doing; each person who buys into this assumes another Gen Z wants to do that job and can't get it.
So, if you want to do a job in the trades, go inquire about them. There are ton. Be best off leaving a city for it, as those are usually places that hired illegals since the 90s and want to pay illegal wages, but there is a huge shortage in many trades because Gen Z doesn't want to do the job, and like I said, similar situation with Millenials as well.
“For every eight guys who retire in this trade, only one guy picks it up. The whole industry is in danger.”
“Wow. Would you hire me? I’d love to learn it.”
“Absolutely not.”
A time is coming, quickly, where we are thoroughly outnumbered with a third world infrastructure and a federal government that is a mix of South Africa's racial hatred and Communist Russia's control and punishment.
The Republican "do it slower please" isn't going to be on the table anymore, so biding time as we collapse at a walking pace instead of a sprint is probably not going to be an experience we get to enjoy in the near future.
We need to start looking for areas of our country that are still demographically better off and working, as a whole, to secure them by being a part of them.
They don't care that they believe the exact opposite of every generation before them. In their eyes their hyper-individualist, "as long as it is in the privacy of their own bedroom", proud to be a vassal state of Israel views are the correct and everyone before them and after are evil racists and doing society wrong.
This is because we are turning into the third world. I don't think people quite understand the fact that these neo-"Americans" cannot maintain our infrastructure and what, exactly, that means for first world expectations and life.
This extends to power infrastructure, internet infrastructure. The average age of an American farmer is MID 50s (because these immigrants are, despite what people think, not doing this work in any meaningful way.)
Unlike OTHER 3rd world countries, when we become third world there will be no United States to swoop in and maintain/build infrastructure for us.
They paved the way for this for a while.
Spent years of Texans laughing at Californians, oblivious to the fact that not one state or region is immune. Hopefully our people are learning that, and hopefully they are learning that we are all in this together and need to start focusing on securing the territory we have left. Chances are most will gloat back and forth.