Eh, I will bite one last time with a wasted effort post:
Fuentes isn't representative of a White nation. Groypers are not representative of a White future. Watching a mix raced effeminate dude give his take on shit and having an AI voice read out the paid for comments isn't "saving the White race".
He represents a historically unrepresented portion of society, so will be worshipped by them no matter what I and others say. That portion is not the White race, but elements of that race (along with other races or combinations of) that fall below standards (behaviorally, physically, etc). A number of social rejects that have swollen since bullying was punished and continue to swell. Is every Groyper that? No, but a majority are and behave as such online (their main area of existence due to this status).
What this boils down to is rejection:
Society never rejected me, nor many of those that hold similar/same beliefs as I. Our opinions, observations and beliefs were rejected... not us nor our behavior. We are not socially awkward or disgynic. In turn, we care about our society and don't explicitly blame it or want to see the healthy elements of it harmed in an attempt to channel change. We embrace a standard much older than ourselves. We may kid as if we are, but we aren't.
It really seems the opposite is true from Fuentes and his end. The comments, beliefs and opinions heavily rely on the edge of the talking points. The suggestions and support rely on the shock value of the topic or are designed to appeal to rejects. Cat boys, bi-polar black rappers, named fan clubs, MGTOW (skirting or whole) mentality, punching right against certain real standards... these are all signs of a movement designed to entice rejected elements of society that have a bone to pick with it. The jokes some of us told about ourselves were taken seriously and hinged on as a rallying cry, by more than just Fuentes and Groypers, but they are one visible representation of it.
It is why we make fun of him and his ardent supporters, it is no different than bullying the social rejects. In better times those rejects would attempt to align, even if it meant developing a glowing personality despite permanent flaws, and assimilate. That time is behind us, so we have these rejects flooding online to defend a charasmatic representative of a standard deemed too low/odd by those of us that are not angry at classical societal norms.
The dysgenic, mentally ill and rejected elements of the left share more in common with these people than we do. One just wields edge and the other wields misplaced empathy, but the overall goal isn't much different: To wrestle power for themselves as they never had power before.
Those like me just wish to return power to those who had it before, the rightful ones and exclude elements deemed rejected in a healthy society. We dislike a society with White trannies, White furries, White degenerates, etc. as much as a society with non-Whites as both are not true representation of societal health.
So, when you see someone making fun of Fuentes they probably aren't completely socially rejected, just their opinions and beliefs. They don't have piss bottles, or skip showers while discussing Assassin's Creed online, they have opportunities to start families and don't throw money at a dude online to hear his opinion on their question or have their thought validated. They don't wear fursuits, or chronically masturbate. They aren't a combination of mental and physical traits that left them alone. If they were bullied for traits, they adjusted what they could and went on to be societally normal.
That is probably the most effort I will spend on this subject and it will, undoubtedly, get neither of us anywhere assuming the attention span is there, which commonly isn't due to behavioral incompatibilities with such individuals (ie. It isn't Fuentes talking so I can't pay attention).
tl;dr: We don't respect him nor those that chronically orbit him.
@BijouDavis0909 We have the most inner diversity and diversity between subgroups of all of them.
Yet we can easily identify who is and who is not on sight.
@DiggingInTheDi1 A lot of it is the pro-isreal boomer, Trump's biggest base. They gloat at the suffering of following generations, spiritually jews so they love israel.
@Tomhennessey69@OswaldsTopGuy Men like that would apply that rule, blanketed, to their country. Then you can get Voodoo versions of Christianity and no more White race.
Millennials raising families, with jobs and cheaper cellphones and not caring about our shoes are experiencing this as well. Many, we just don't have the luxury of as much of an online presence at the moment. All you prove is that your generation is disconnected and gloat for the struggles that the following generations face. This is why your generation is becoming universally disliked despite being our parents / grandparents. No generation has despised another living generation as much as the Boomer and older Gen X generation (referred to as just Boomers, because you behave the same between the two) is despised by the next TWO. (Alpha won't like your generation either) While the generation is still living. While your generation is still going to be reliant on us.
Big ask, but mull around the fact that our generations (Latter end of Gen X, Millennials across the board and all of Gen Z) are growing increasingly tired of your generation. Across political ideologies, races and only the more wealthy aspects that are not impacted aren't bothered by this gloating, but still grow to dislike you because the rest of us do.
Your generation and your "muh Conservative talking head said something funny" is despised. Never before has that happened. Wonder how the future will play out, broadly, for such generational relations. I am sure your talking heads that aren't impacted will tell you to gloat more.
Everything they do offends the senses. Smell. Appearance. Mannerisms (the neck wobble and way they move their hands are grossly alien). Accent. Behavior (shitting in streets, trash)
It is seriously like our natural disgust responses were developed to keep us permanently separated from them.
@Haiduc__@OurOwnNation Things happen all the time, they are currently happening. Every day things are a little worse than the last and looking at the situation over a real timeframe a lot has happened.
Nothing ever happening is gradual change blindess and shifting baseline. Relatively rapid as well.
@EvanAKilgore >Get your sh*t together, black people.
We used to have a system that actually punished them and they still didn't get it together. Prisons were full of them.
If legitimate punishment couldn't make it happen, I don't know what you think telling them would.
There are blacks that do or behave in a way that appears "good" and people mistakingly believe that their values, goals and character are relatable to their own. This is why we hear "he was a good boy" from the family of ones shot in self defense, good to them is a different concept that for us. There is merely crossover on individual actions.
>what town have you built for Whites
We have towns. As in White towns, with White populations, White standards and White safety. Are they the super convenient metropolitan zones? No, those are lost for right now.
So have you looked for a White town?
I did. I found many. So for now, White towns already exist. The issue is our people who are waiting for a giant fucking blimp with an advertisement for it, which are the ones that probably wouldn't move to it because living in one and attempting to preserve it takes effort. Being part of the community takes effort.
You have access to Wikipedia and every state has demographics data. Counties, many towns have data for it.
You go there, you become part of the community and you attempt, in any ways you can, to sway that community to STAY what it is.
You can't imagine how hard that is, but worth it.
@VladTheInflator This is the ultimate goal and it is actually crazy how quickly this was normalized. There was a time where entire areas would be up in arms over this. Instead it is just news.
@topgoy14 Yep. Both sides are taking part in an ethnic cleansing of Whites at the end of the day, maybe even as the main reason at this point looking at what is happening to all of our countries that seems to be a high priority reason in general.
@Gregorian2026@VladTheInflator If she did prior then she will definitely do so again. They don't learn lessons, especially generalized ones, in the way men do. The group is right, always, so if the group says this was an individual incident then it was an individual incident with no racial basis.
When they have a man, and actually trust in him, to explain what the threats are.
The man was the protector of the family, therefore he knew what the threats were as they can change.
Women are only able to identify immediate threats to the young as a last ditch survival method for the young.
General threat detection, especially for themselves, isn't a skill most have.
Their core beliefs aren't dictated by experience or observation in many cases.
Society imparts beliefs and expected actions on to them because they are socially a sponge.
Men were meant to go out, learn and judge from experience, then teach the lessons learned to their wives and daughters.
Man protects woman, so therefore man knows threats. Women needs to know what man sees as threats to be protected.
Now entertainment, news and social media teaches them threats due to no man.
Many Whites have a natural and well developed disgust response. Those without it end up undesirables within our race due to the fact they no longer avoid that which disgusts the rest of us. (Homosexual acts, certain fetishes, behavior/appearance of others, living conditions)
Healthy disgust response is a feature, not a bug.
Back in the day many of us joked about our social status or compatibility. Called ourselves autistic, or rejects. Insulted "normies" and blamed them for fictional positions in our lives that sounded funny. I am 100% some still do.
In truth, many of us simply pretended to be socially incompatible because we knew our ideas, views, values and knowledge was "taboo" and we were shoved to the far corners of the Internet. We embraced the outcast persona because what we were saying or thinking was incompatible with modern society.
We debated, called each other slurs, etc. then got off our computer or set our device down and re-entered a more "normal" mode. We still do it now, as anonymity allows for that. Dudes who were physically fit, guys with friends, 9-5 jobs, goals, wives, girlfriends, children and able to hold a real life conversation... we joked about a sort of "loser" status due to the beliefs and where we found ourselves discussing them.
We turned some of our real talking points into anchors for those that are incompatible with society and any real solutions by enabling them to partake and rally around them. I can see this, and I am sure others can as well.
We need to reanalyze this, as things have changed since then and we are creating a compatibility issue we won't overcome. Especially with newer generations.
There is an abnormal growth on our ideologies that drags us down as we swim for solutions. We won't have a solution with real life representations of these people associated with them. Yes, they are effective for spreading talking points, but we see them corrupt them as they do. Those they entice to our values and beliefs swell the number of those incompatible with them or the natural standards that come with them.
Yet, we ignore it or live with it. We overlook glaring incompatiblies because they speak what we believe, or we pretend these elements don't exist.
Take, for example, an effeminate, underweight guy, chronically playing video games, poor hygiene and behaviorally that attaches to elements of NatSoc ideals. We already know this guy exists. It is edgy, of course, and feels like he is striking back at society... but if a representation of that ideal comes, it will "not be good enough" immediately because he implicitly understands the standards associated with it. Such a change in the real world... he knows what that would mean. Either change (hard) or still be incompatible with it. If this individual has a "following" he can act as an air brake on any climb. Even as individuals they will collectively try.
This is why we see many shun real life representations of pro-White individuals that seem to meet a classical understanding. Are any perfect? Of course not, none will be, but a standard too high to meet means no representation, which means safety and the ability to continually "offend".
At some point, we need to demand quality, or change will not happen. Each man cannot be in charge of the quality he demands either, or we are left with the same conditions (no different than voting our way out of this).
A bar, mounted in concrete, needs to be set from what we expect from those that hold our ideals and values both online and in the real world and true trash needs to be identified as such and collectively pushed elsewhere. Most of us understand that we are a collective of race with a broad focus or a national focus. This isn't punching right (as these elements will embrace the most hardcore views for edge/shock value) but cleaning house.
We aren't saving ourselves by selling ourselves short to appease the dredges that don't belong. Sacrificing the edgy elements isn't reducing our numbers, whether they are aware or not they are traitors to the ideal.
This isn't demanding a purity spiral either. Those of us that aren't these individuals know White men come in a wide variety of forms.
tl;dr: If they would have reasonably been outcasted, we need to outcast them.