@justinbyleth ...her combos can feel a bit awkward. It's a very different switch than just "fast lucina and Ike if he was good".
Someone like Cloud just 'clicks' with you much easier, if that makes sense.
Also her having a bad-ish recovery as a top tier is scary when on a good winners run.
@justinbyleth An aspect that is kind of overlooked is how awkward Mythra (not really Pyra) can feel to play. She's fast, but almost feels 'too' fast, it's hard to run in and poke with something like a dtilt. You're incentivized to use her nair like it's Byleth nair but better, and...
@FireThePyro I feel like people are underestimating how bad Lylat can be for Steve. Aside from being a stone only stage, he can also get efficiently circle camped by a significant portion of the cast
Here are some (scuffed, flawed) examples of what I mean. Even block walls dont help much
@Pawp_SSB@LittleMacMainKO Specifically on Kalos, circle camping is much easier and effective than, say, Town (temporary platforms) and PS2. Main reason you dont see it so often is due to how rare Kalos being legal is, and when it is, Steves ban it.
I'd say about 30~ characters can do it effectively imo