🐨 Honestly, I think everyone has their own idea of what BTS is. Even the members all think differently. Some might say, “This is BTS,” while others might say, “No, that is BTS”…I’ve come to realize that the way each person holds BTS in their heart, the image of BTS each person remembers, and what each person wants from BTS are all different. And truthfully, the 7 of us are all different in many ways too. And for ARMY, and of course, for others too, that goes without saying…More than anything, we can’t satisfy everyone, and there will always be things where we fall short or wish we could do better…No matter how much we fight, or how different we are, or whether people say this isn’t enough, or that it has to be one way or another, nothing is more precious than all of us coming together…
Two days ago, I posted about the difficulty Joon & Hobi face in making any kind of statement that could satisfy everyone.
The responses were interesting, including the ones that disagreed with me. You won't have seen all of the responses, but I did, and it was fascinating to see the range of views.
A number of people said some version of:
“They should have said SOMETHING.”
So I looked at what people responding to that post actually suggested that “something” should be.
WHAT SHOULD THEY SAY OR DO?
• An apology.
• An acknowledgement, but not necessarily an apology.
• An explanation of why they attended.
• An explanation of what they knew.
• A simple statement that there is never an excuse for violence against women.
• Reassurance about their values.
• A message specifically acknowledging fans who were hurt.
• A Live addressing it directly.
• A subtle message during a Live.
• An immediate statement saying they were aware of the concerns and looking into them.
• A donation to an organisation supporting women affected by violence.
• Changed behaviour rather than words.
• No statement at all.
WHEN SHOULD THEY SAY IT?
There was no agreement about timing either.
• They should have spoken immediately.
• They needed time to reflect.
• A couple of days would have been reasonable.
• It’s not too late now.
• It’s already too late now.
WHAT DOES THEIR SILENCE MEAN?
There was no agreement about that either.
• Silence is wise.
• Silence avoids feeding the controversy.
• Silence means they’re listening but choosing not to respond publicly.
• Silence makes them look complicit.
• Silence means they don’t care.
• Silence feels like betrayal.
WHAT DO THEY KNOW, THINK OR FEEL?
Throughout the responses, there were many, many assumptions being made about Joon and Hobi.
• They knew CB’s history.
• They didn’t know the extent of it.
• They understand why people are upset.
• They don’t understand why people are upset.
• They’re taking time to reflect.
• They’re deliberately ignoring the situation.
• They’re following PR advice.
• They’re receiving terrible PR advice.
• They don’t care.
• They care but know that speaking could make things worse.
Some of those things may be true. Some may not be.
We simply don’t know.
WHAT DOES EVERYONE ELSE WANT?
There were also plenty of assumptions about what other people in the fandom think, feel or would accept.
• ARMY just want them to acknowledge what happened.
• Most people would accept a simple statement.
• Hurt fans would accept a good-faith effort and move on.
• Fans who love them just want to know they’ve been heard.
• The people demanding a statement will never be satisfied.
• The people still angry are mostly antis or people acting in bad faith.
• Genuine ARMY would accept an apology.
• Genuine ARMY don’t need an apology.
• People asking for an apology want accountability.
• People asking for an apology want humiliation.
But the responses themselves show that ARMY do not all want the same thing.
None of us can speak for an entire fandom.
WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD THEY APOLOGISE FOR?
Even among people who wanted an apology, there wasn’t agreement about that.
• Attending the concert?
• Associating publicly with CB?
• What they knew or didn’t know beforehand?
• Posting afterwards?
• The impact on fans?
• Not responding sooner?
I’m not listing these to ridicule any of them. These are real responses from people with genuinely different expectations, experiences and feelings about the same situation.
Some are completely compatible with each other. Others directly contradict one another.
And these came from the responses to just one fan’s post across two platforms.
So when we say they should simply “say something,” I think it’s worth recognising just how many different versions of something people are actually asking for, and how much of the conversation surrounding that demand is being built on things none of us can actually know.
Imagine trying to construct the statement.
ele realmente achou de bom tom aparecer com uma camiseta com a frase da whitney houston que viveu um casamento abusivo no meio de uma polêmica gigantesca sobre apoiar um agressor de mulheres
Pra parte do fandom que tá argumentando “vocês não são fãs de verdade” “vende o ingresso” “não acredito que vocês conseguiram e eu não”: também gostaria de contribuir para pesar o clima ☝🏻
Fui vítima de violência doméstica. Já fui espancada por um homem.
Então, sim, ver pessoas que eu admiro escolhendo estar prestigiando e confraternizando com um homem com fama GLOBAL por ter um histórico gravíssimo de violência contra mulher me atinge de uma forma que não atinge vocês.
Não significa que deixei de ser fã do dia pra noite, que passei a odiar todos eles ou que preciso vender meu ingresso para provar meu sentimento. Significa apenas que eu estou puramente decepcionada, e tenho motivos muito pessoais para estar.
Vocês podem escolher relativizar, separar as coisas ou não se importar na mesma intensidade. O livre arbítrio permite que vocês fechem os olhos, passem pano, não cobrem um posicionamento deles (de homens adultos, concientes, influentes, e muito bem informados do universo da indústria musical). Por mim, foda-se.
O que vocês não têm é o direito de julgar a reação de quem olha para essa situação e inevitavelmente enxerga nela algo que já viveu na própria pele, bem como fazer piadócas sobre o assunto somando isso à frustração de apenas não terem conseguido um ingresso.
A decepção que EU sinto, talvez vocês realmente nunca sintam na mesma intensidade (e espero do fundo do coração que nunca tenham motivo para sentir kkk).
Ser fã NUNCA significou abrir mão do senso crítico. O argumento de “não ser fã de verdade” é o ápice da infantilidade. Não vou anular a minha decepção para “provar lealdade” a homem algum “acima de qualquer coisa”.
Estamos acompanhando a repercussão em relação ao Nam e Hope aparecendo com Chris Brown e Usher.
Como equipe do Namjoon Book Club, sempre, em todas as discussões, incentivamos que os leitores também tivessem uma posição crítica quanto a posicionamentos (ou a falta deles) +