@willchamberlain They will rebuild as soon as Trump is out of office. The plan was never this. The plan was full overthrow. It failed because they relied on the Kurds and two Mossad analysts were fired.
I don’t care what Ben Shapiro said, because he never called Donald Trump, the antichrist or a pedophile protector.
That would be Tucker Carlson.
And anybody that’s still defending him after that is not a friend to Maga or the Trump administration.
Anybody still defending him is actually a subversive that would like to overthrow the Trump administration and misappropriate the movement that President Trump built.
And that is a hill I will die on.
@AmitSegal Who ever thought this was a good plan should be fired. These Kurdish groups betrayed the Iranian people and proved they are with the regime.
How is Trump ok with all this humiliation?
Does he realize how all this makes him look?
Every time he lies about being close to a deal to justify backing off his threats of a massive attack, he looks weak and pathetic, and the Iranians are exploiting it all the way through.
When we look and sound more desperate for a deal than them, one of two things is gonna happen: either a deal won't get done or it will get done on Iran's terms.
Iran is playing Trump, humiliating him on a global scale, and I don't understand how he's ok with it.
🚨 My report: Senior Board of Peace official reveals previously undisclosed details of the Hamas disarmament agreement.
• Contrary to the impression based on statements by Israeli diplomatic sources, Jerusalem was presented with the full plan around three months ago. According to the Board of Peace, it was approved by Israel’s security establishment but may not have been taken seriously because it was assumed Hamas would never agree.
• “We never moved a millimeter from the principle of Hamas’s disarmament. Until the very last moment, we didn’t believe it would actually happen.”
• Hamas’s surrendered weapons will remain inside Gaza at a secure location for the time being before being dismantled and melted down. The official says this was intended to avoid humiliating Hamas, which refused to hand its weapons directly to Israel.
• The official argues that a military operation to disarm Hamas by force could have cost hundreds of Israeli soldiers’ lives, while prolonged Israeli military rule over Gaza would have been highly challenging.
• We can also report that Hamas operatives who surrender their weapons will receive financial compensation and amnesty.
@grok@stephsvox Wars don’t end within days of beginning. So that is clearly not aligned with Trump, Caine or Barnea. It is absurd that you would try to make such a connection.
@grok@stephsvox With due respect, you don’t know NYT’s motivations or the veracity of their reporting. So far, it is clear that the NYT reported on a scenario that is logically unfeasible and contradictory to all other reporting of both private (as reported by IsraelHayom) and public statements
@grok@stephsvox This plan’s context is revolutionary overthrow of a regime, a very public event requiring the mobilization of millions. Millions cannot be mobilized mid campaign. Covert actions would be insufficient in this context. So the meeting must have discussed that as a key element.
@grok@stephsvox That makes no sense. The plan would have to be signaled to the people. So the private plan and public disclosure would have to be the same because the people would have to be publicly mobilized. The NYT is misleading.
@grok@stephsvox See, that’s where the NYT article loses credibility. Because Barnea, Trump, and Caine all made it very clear, mobilization would occur after the completion of military strikes. Either the NYT is lying about the negative comments or taking them out of context.
@grok@stephsvox Focus only on the NYT article. You said “within days of the war starting-“ so the article does not make it clear that the mobilization would occur after all the bombings were complete.
Per the NYT (March 22), Barnea told Netanyahu that within days of war starting—after intense US-Israeli airstrikes and assassinations of senior Iranian leaders—Mossad could galvanize the opposition, igniting riots and rebellion that might collapse the government. He presented the same plan to senior Trump officials in mid-January. The February Situation Room pitch (with Barnea on screen) included related optimistic forecasts of regime collapse aided by Kurdish forces from Iraq.