@grassfay Instead of correcting this user that your post wasn't about binary trans people, you replied agreeing with them. You might not have directly said it, but following up like this does imply you are talking about binary trans people.
@grassfay Why would you use the term non-binary if you want to live as a man or a woman? Because I don't see how "wanting to assimilate into cısgender society" could mean anything else. If you live as non-binary isn't it impossible to be read as cıs?
@grassfay Do you not see how fucked up it is to look at the group that the word "trans" was made for and tell them that by transitioning they are abandoning the trans experience to be more like cıs people when that's not how it works at all.
@grassfay You think binary trans people being binary is assimilation into being cıs and that's the problem. Transitioning to the sex you weren't born as and living as such is inherently trans and the first use of the word.
@lyrasie Not all binary trans men feel this way but we haven't fit in with the trans community in a while and for every day since 2018 a dude on reddit has complained about it. Because we present as male and see ourselves as a person who is a man that happened to have transitioned.
@lyrasie Binary trans men have been talking about this for years but with different wording. I will say it did feel weird at first when trans women started talking about this problem like binary trans men aren't negatively impacted but I'm glad it's being discussed more.
@Loozrrrrrpedal@wild_trifle_745 s. Hypothetical Edith's identity is valid but they aren't trans and it'd be rude for her to use the label since she won't have any shared experiences with trans people other than pronouns in bio.
@Loozrrrrrpedal@wild_trifle_745 Changing your name from Jane to Sam, using they/them pronouns, and making an effort to look not female or androgynous to others is still transitioning. Changing your name from Jane to Edith, using she/they pronouns, and still presenting as female is not transitioning and not tran
@thickapplejuice Mind you, the meaning of the word girl has not changed. Using the word trans to refer to people who don't transition and don't want to happened mostly in the past decade and has been met with backlash since it started happening.
@thickapplejuice That makes a lot of sense. Girls who argue that they are different from "other girls" claim that "other girls" are not girls all of the time. This is definitely legitimate criticism and not a completely absurd comparison.
@H3liumWings As only one person I don't have any authority though. All I can do is say my peice and grumble like an old man after kids ran through his lawn.
@H3liumWings I think it's fair to say people who transition (whether that be sex characteristics or social characteristics) have stake over the term trans before people who do not TRANSition do. Otherwise we'd find our own label.
@H3liumWings@IsraeliAFAB Transphobic bigotry is denying someone opportunities or abusing them on the basis that their sex at birth is different from the gender they present as. People who don't transition don't present as a different gender and cannot experience transphobic bigotry.