Can people that followed me so that I can join their stream in the comments leave a link to their twitch stream so I can subscribe? I'm trying to keep up, but my post kind of sort of blew up while I was at work. And it's hard for me to look at each person profile and see if they have a twitch linked, so I can follow to keep up with the notifications
I'm not characterizing people as a whole. I'm just stating what i'm seeing. The negativity outweighs for positivity. I'm trying to forcibly change my algorithm and feed to more positive things. And other members that spread positive information that's not so drama filled. But as a person who didn't even have twitter prior to and created an account, because this is the social hub for vtubers. It's a pretty nasty introduction because you're immediately jumped by scammers by bots, people wanting to fake being your friend for different ulterior motives. You see so much drama being spread. And it's like, wow, I just got here. And this is all that i'm seeing
Honestly, the more I get into the VTuber community, the more conflicted I feel about becoming a VTuber.
When I first started watching VTubers, I thought I understood what the community was like. I watched my favorite creators, enjoyed their content, saw the friendships and collaborations, and thought, “I want to do this too.” That was a huge part of what made me want to become a VTuber in the first place.
But now that I’m actually going through the process getting my model made, commissioning things, preparing to stream, and eventually putting myself on VTuber Twitter/X. I’ve gotten a much closer look at the community itself. And honestly… some of it has made me almost regret my decision.
There is SO much toxicity, drama, competition, and negativity. I’ve seen female creators constantly put themselves against each other, people tear others down over their appearance, scams and manipulation, people taking advantage of newcomers, and just so much unnecessary drama.
And I think what bothers me the most is that I naively thought I could just stay in my lane. I thought, “I’ll make my content, have fun, meet some cool people, and mind my business.” And I still plan to do exactly that, but it’s hard not to notice how much problematic behavior exists within the community you're trying to become a part of.
Sometimes I genuinely think, “Wow… THIS is the community I’m stepping into?”
And then there’s this weird feeling of being embarrassed to even say, “I’m a VTuber,” because I know that if someone unfamiliar with VTubing looks into the community, there’s a good chance they’ll find scandals, drama, callouts, scams, and controversy before they find the parts that made me fall in love with VTubing in the first place.
That honestly makes me sad.
Because I still love the creative side of it. I love the idea of creating a character, building a world around her, entertaining people, streaming, making videos, and just being goofy and myself in a different way. That’s what attracted me to this in the first place.
I just wish there wasn’t so much negativity attached to the community surrounding it.
Maybe I’m still naive for thinking this, but I genuinely believe you shouldn’t have to tear someone else down to build yourself up. There’s room for more than one person to succeed. You can compliment another woman without comparing yourself to her. You can disagree with someone without trying to destroy them. And you can grow your own audience without treating everyone else like competition.
I’m still going to do this. I’m not going to let the worst parts of the community dictate whether I get to enjoy something I’m genuinely excited about.
But I’d be lying if I said seeing all of this hasn’t made me take a step back and think, “Damn… what exactly did I get myself into?”
That is so wild, maybe they just wanted someone to vent, to but yeah. I understand that x is kind of like the social center or hub for vtubers. Which is why I created an account in the first place Because I don't even have a personal x account. And I am like yikes at times lol. Because not only is it introducing me to the community, but also to the app in a whole. So it's just a double whammy
@Unbreakablezone Haha yeeeah lol i just need people to put their like time whenever they stream. So I can join, because some people don't have their twitch. In their account bio. But you dont have to stream to 0 viewers for months. Not if I can help it haha
If any vtuber is going to be going live, and you need a viewer to support you. I will happily join your life and I'll message in the chat. So you can have someone to talk to.
Lol! I realized that not everyone has to stream to 0 viewers if we show up and support each other. Of course. The hope is to build an organic audience. But until then, sometimes your number one supporters can be your friends, family, or fellow vtubers in the community . It breaks my heart when people are streaming to 0 viewers and talking to themselves
@JoelieCiderVT Awe thank you! I am waiting on the rigging to be finished for my model! I realized that not everyone has to stream to 0 viewers for months or a year. They can stream maybe to other vtubers who is there to support them so they won't feel so alone .
I'm not the one to stoop down to someone else's level. But you know what, you have an evil spirit. And if what someone else said is true about you being twenty five years old with a husband then I guess the only person that would find you attractive is your husband because who would want to be with such an evil spirit like you. Because that makes you ugly your spirit. It takes a person to wanna marry someone like you. You're definitely not the brightest tool In the box. But you know that, of course, because and one of the reason posts said that you were jesus retarded little angel, which is a wild thing to say about yourself. But hey, we love a self aware queen, right.
Maybe it's the boudoir photographer in me and I guess you can say, it's my job to show you the beauty in front of my camera lens. I don't believe someone's worth, beauty, or confidence should be determined by whether they fit a conventional beauty standard. And that's almost the opposite of what a lot of women have been conditioned to believe about themselves.
In boudoir, I am not saying, “I'm going to photograph you and pretend you're something you're not.” I am saying, “Let me show you a version of yourself that you may not have learned to see yet.”
You don't need to change someone's body to make them beautiful. You can use posing, lighting, angles, styling, and expression to highlight what is already there.
Confidence doesn't have to come after becoming conventionally attractive. Someone can be confident while having cellulite, a softer stomach, asymmetry, scars, a larger body, a receding hairline, whatever.
Beauty is subjective. I am not trying to convince every person looking at the photograph that my client is the most conventionally beautiful person alive. I am creating images where that person can look at herself and say, “Damn, I look good.”
There's power in being seen.
Especially for women who have spent years hiding certain parts of themselves because they've been told those parts aren't attractive.
Hype isn't dishonesty. There's a difference between falsely telling someone something you don't believe and genuinely helping someone recognize something beautiful about themselves that they may have overlooked.
I think it’s actually beautiful when someone who may not fit society’s idea of “conventionally attractive” can look at themselves and genuinely love what they see. When they can be confident in their body, laugh off people's opinions, and not let someone calling them ugly determine how they feel about themselves. That kind of confidence is so much more important than whether some random person on the internet thinks you're attractive.
And honestly, I find it so strange and hurtful that people are getting upset over other people complimenting her. Like... why does it bother you that someone else thinks this person is beautiful? You don't have to agree. You don't have to be attracted to them. But you also don't have to tear them down just because you don't see what someone else sees.
I would much rather live in a world where women hype each other up and help each other feel confident than one where we're constantly looking for reasons to tell each other what's wrong with our faces and bodies.
Maybe it's the boudoir photographer in me and I guess you can say, it's my job to show you the beauty in front of my camera lens. I don't believe someone's worth, beauty, or confidence should be determined by whether they fit a conventional beauty standard. And that's almost the opposite of what a lot of women have been conditioned to believe about themselves.
In boudoir, I am not saying, “I'm going to photograph you and pretend you're something you're not.” I am saying, “Let me show you a version of yourself that you may not have learned to see yet.”
You don't need to change someone's body to make them beautiful. You can use posing, lighting, angles, styling, and expression to highlight what is already there.
Confidence doesn't have to come after becoming conventionally attractive. Someone can be confident while having cellulite, a softer stomach, asymmetry, scars, a larger body, a receding hairline, whatever.
Beauty is subjective. I am not trying to convince every person looking at the photograph that my client is the most conventionally beautiful person alive. I am creating images where that person can look at herself and say, “Damn, I look good.”
There's power in being seen.
Especially for women who have spent years hiding certain parts of themselves because they've been told those parts aren't attractive.
Hype isn't dishonesty. There's a difference between falsely telling someone something you don't believe and genuinely helping someone recognize something beautiful about themselves that they may have overlooked.
I’m honestly really glad that you’re not letting any of this get to you and that you’re able to laugh about it, because you genuinely seem so confident in yourself and I love that for you.
I just wanted to say that I think you’re absolutely adorable. You have the cutest hairstyle and the biggest smile, and you just have a really cute face. And yeah, maybe your hairline isn’t perfect, but who the hell has a perfect everything? That does not give anyone the right to call you ugly or “chopped.” You aren’t ugly.
I actually saw someone post about you saying that you aren’t conventionally attractive and that they hate when women “gas each other up” when someone supposedly isn't pretty. They even said that when they eventually have a face reveal, people better call them ugly or chopped instead of complimenting them.
And honestly, that really bothered me.
Because I’m sitting here thinking, why is it so offensive to you that I can look at someone and genuinely think they’re pretty or cute? Beauty is subjective. Me saying, “Hey, I think she’s beautiful” doesn't mean I’m lying to her or trying to convince her that she meets some universal standard of beauty. I genuinely think she’s beautiful. You can disagree, and that's fine, but that doesn't make everyone who sees her differently dishonest.
I think it’s actually beautiful when someone who may not fit society’s idea of “conventionally attractive” can look at themselves and genuinely love what they see. When they can be confident in their body, laugh off people's opinions, and not let someone calling them ugly determine how they feel about themselves. That kind of confidence is so much more important than whether some random person on the internet thinks you're attractive.
And honestly, I find it so strange and hurtful that people are getting upset over other people complimenting you. Like... why does it bother you that someone else thinks this person is beautiful? You don't have to agree. You don't have to be attracted to them. But you also don't have to tear them down just because you don't see what someone else sees.
I would much rather live in a world where women hype each other up and help each other feel confident than one where we're constantly looking for reasons to tell each other what's wrong with our faces and bodies.
So anyway, I just wanted you to know that when I say I think you're adorable, I'm not “gassing you up” or lying to you. I genuinely think you're cute. And I hope you keep that confidence and keep laughing because at the end of the day, someone else's opinion of your appearance doesn't change how beautiful you can feel about yourself.
This is honestly why I found this tweet so hurtful and disgusting. It isn't just that you personally don't find this woman attractive. You're basically saying that the women complimenting her are lying to her and that they shouldn't “gas her up” because she's not conventionally attractive in your eyes.
But beauty is subjective. I think she's cute. Is she necessarily my type? No. But I can still look at her and think she's cute or attractive. Those things can coexist.
And I genuinely don't understand why we have to treat women hyping each other up like it's some horrible thing. Why is the assumption that they're lying? Why can't women genuinely think another woman is beautiful, even if she doesn't fit whatever society considers conventionally attractive?
And even if someone isn't conventionally attractive, so what? Does that mean they deserve to be reminded of it? Is it really okay to bully someone and tell them how ugly they are under the guise of “being honest”?
I actually think it's beautiful when women hype each other up and help each other build confidence. So many women spend their entire lives being taught to hate their bodies, compare themselves to other women, and pick apart every single thing they don't like about themselves. If someone is finally learning to love herself and feel confident in her own body, why would you want to take that away from her?
You don't have to personally find someone attractive to understand why someone else does. And you don't have to agree with someone's beauty to validate the fact that they see themselves as beautiful.
Also, telling someone they're beautiful isn't automatically a lie just because they aren't “conventionally attractive.” There are so many different things that make someone attractive. Their face, their personality, their presence, their confidence, their style, the way they carry themselves. Beauty has never been one objective standard.
And honestly, I think the idea that women complimenting each other is somehow “emotionally damaging” because they might not fit conventional beauty standards is backwards. What's actually damaging is teaching women that they need to meet some arbitrary standard before they're allowed to feel beautiful.
I'd much rather live in a world where women genuinely encourage each other, build each other's confidence, and remind each other that they are beautiful than one where we're constantly tearing each other down in the name of being “honest.”
You don't have to find someone beautiful. But you also don't get to decide that everyone who does is lying.
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If my face ever gets leaked at some point I don't want a single one of you gassing me up like these comments.
In my personal opinion it is far more hurtful to someone to lie to their face while giving them a fake compliment then to be completely real with them.
Hearing "nooo ur so beautiful bbgurl" every time you know for a FACT you are not a very conventionally attractive person makes you second guess if anyone ever means ANYTHING nice they say to you. That is a horribly crippling doubt to live with.
Most vtubers are chopped looking! That's why we are vtubers! Its okay aknowlege it. Lying to people's faces will be far more emotionally damaging in the long run then just telling them the truth.
Don't call yourself someone's friend if you care more about how your words and actions are perceived from the outside than how those words and actions affect that person's long term wellbeing.
You're weird bro. Beauty is subjective just because you don't find her attractive. That doesn't mean that another person can't find her attractive or cute. Just because you don't find this person attractive. That doesn't mean everyone in the comments Should call her ugly because she doesn't meet the beauty standards. There is nothing wrong with women gassing her up because we don't need people like you, tearing other people down. It's called building herself confidence. If she doesn't think she's attracting, having strangers, women say that she is attractive will make her feel better. There's something beautiful about loving yourself and the way that you look, even if you aren't conventionally attractive, that's absolutely beautiful.