@MochalovUA Internally maybe you have propagated totally wrong image of UPA in you country but externally - Internationally you have helped to show to all people around the world how bad the UPA was and how horrible people you are glorifying. I don't get why you want to go help russnazis??
@14druzivBanderi Bro, no hard feelings. simple no deal means no deal and that's all. Why do you guys make such a big deal from it? You want more MiGs? Then simple - pay for this.
@tuetendreher@HavryshkoMarta What about you? You are also comfortably sitting in your new home in Germany. If you are so brave, go and conscript into your army. You behave exactly the same like any other Ukrainians in 1920 - I don't need to fight, somebody else will fight for me 😊
From Mirosław Szumiło PhD of IPN (Polish Institute for National Remembrance):
When people talk about the “heroes of the #UPA”, I always ask: which UPA?
The First Ukrainian Insurgent Army was established at the end of 1941 in Polesia and northern #Volhynia, and its founder was Taras Bulba-Borovets.
It was only in April 1943 that the #Banderites stole the name “UPA”, seeking to subordinate all factions of the Ukrainian underground to themselves.
Ataman Bulba-Borovets did not feel any sympathy for the Poles, but he intended to fight them using different methods.
During negotiations on April 9, 1943, the Banderites demanded that Bulba-Borovets “cleanse the entire insurgent territory of the Polish population.” He rejected this proposal, stating:
“Only a sovereign state can free a given territory from national minorities through population exchange, not a regular army through repression. In response to hostile Polish acts, only the actual perpetrators should be punished, not the entire population. The principle of collective and family responsibility can only be applied by barbarians, not by a civilized army.”
In a later open letter to the leadership of the OUN-B (Bandera faction) dated August 4, 1943, Taras Bulba-Borovets clearly presented his position on the Polish question:
“Can a true revolutionary and statesman subordinate himself to the leadership of a party that begins the construction of a state with the slaughter of national minorities and the insane burning of their homes? Ukraine has far more dangerous enemies than the Poles. Every child knows that the extermination of Poles in some districts will not eliminate the Polish threat to Ukraine. The Polish nation exists regardless, and as long as it remains in the same bondage as we do, it will - due to the circumstances - be not our enemy, but our ally. What intentions the Poles may have toward us in the future and how our relations will develop is another matter. Today, instead of slaughter, we must build a single revolutionary front of all oppressed nations against the occupiers, and not create unnecessary additional fronts for ourselves.”
HONEST QUESTION FOR UKRAINIANS: Why is Bulba-Borovets not venerated the same way as Bandera?
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@conform1st@ofkaradag I will repeat like a broken record - it was not AK but a ROUGE units! And they have done it in reaction to what upa has done! With this message, I'm ending this discussion, as we have a saying - don't argue with an idiot as he will drag you to his level and beat you with his exp
@conform1st@ofkaradag It is like talking with the wall! AK and upa were 2 different organizations! And only upa made an order to kill all Poles in West Ukraine! AK didn't make that kind of order! I do not glorify those ROUGE AK units! Are you blind or deaf?
@conform1st@ofkaradag I'm not ignoring it! I condemn those rouge AK units! They weren't working on behalf of AK's high command! What is different is that upa as organizations made that decision to eradicate Poles! Why are you comparing apples to oranges!? Both are fruits but totally different
@conform1st@ofkaradag upa and AK are totally different organizations! The goal of upa was to eradicate all Poles, Czechs and others from 🇺🇦 territories to liberate 🇺🇦. The goal of AK was to liberate 🇵🇱, fight collaborators and 🇩🇪 army, there was not any goal to eradicate regular people. 2 diff org
@conform1st@evrr00@KuyavianR4p1st Don't you see the fking difference? AK - no order from higher up to commit atrocities, some rouge units committed them in revenge. UPA - planned and ordered by higher-ups the order to kill all Poles. Do you see the difference!