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My instinct in these discussions has often been to stay and fight, but tonight I wanted to argue the other way by pointing out historical/mythological figures who fled and created even greater freedom, but there's a snag.

When the Greeks defeated Troy, Aneas fled with his family rather than die fighting, and founded the next big thing which became Rome (according to the Romans, they are Troy gloriously reborn). But I think he was perfectly willing to die fighting Achilles, but the gods pulled him out because his destiny was larger than Troy.”

Lot tried to stay to save Sodom, but he didn't flee he was dragged out by angels. There are many cases in the Bible where someone could have stayed but God moved them to where they could make something better.

In Christ's time, the Jews did not die fighting the Romans for freedom (like they had expected to) but instead followed Jesus' example and created something new and better than they had before.

Many British left tyranny for the Americas instead of fighting for the motherland, and ended up doing that whole independance and constitution thing. That was pretty cool.

Socrates refused to flee (go read Applogy and Crito, worth your time!) and accepted his death sentence with badass honour. But, he was an old man who knew he couldn't have done all that much somewhere new, his legacy lives strong because he died willingly. However, his student Plato did flee after this and so preserved "philosophy itself" and Socrates' memory and fighting spirit.

So there are times where you should leave: when God tells you to rise up and go make something better. Until that happens, you should be making something better wherever you are.

The difference, I think, is whether your running *away from the bad*, or *running towards the Good*.

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@Hitchslap1 Someone get the gofundme going. $1000 to get @CatholicPaws to turn on @Hitchslap1
It's for a good cause

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@Hitchslap1 @TalkWithSally twitterpated is the correct term, ask my kids

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@CatholicPaws Agreed! My shepherd x kelpie was the single best dog, period.

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In 1936, J. R. R. Tolkien published a Christmas poem titled “Noel” in the annual magazine of Our Lady's Abingdon, in Oxfordshire. The poem was lost to history for nearly 80 years until scholars Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull rediscovered it in the archives. It reads:

Grim was the world and grey last night:
The moon and stars were fled,
The hall was dark without song or light,
The fires were fallen dead.
The wind in the trees was like to the sea,
And over the mountains' teeth
It whistled bitter-cold and free,
As a sword leapt from its sheath.

The lord of snows upreared his head;
His mantle long and pale
Upon the bitter blast was spread
And hung o'er hill and dale.
The world was blind, the boughs were bent,
All ways and paths were wild:
Then the veil of cloud apart was rent,
And here was born a Child.

The ancient dome of heaven sheer
Was pricked with distant light;
A star came shining white and clear
Alone above the night.
In the dale of dark in that hour of birth
One voice on a sudden sang:
Then all the bells in Heaven and Earth
Together at midnight rang.

Mary sang in this world below:
They heard her song arise
O'er mist and over mountain snow
To the walls of Paradise,
And the tongue of many bells was stirred
in Heaven's towers to ring
When the voice of mortal maid was heard,
That was mother of Heaven's King.

Glad is the world and fair this night
With stars about its head,
And the hall is filled with laughter and light,
And fires are burning red.
The bells of Paradise now ring
With bells of Christendom,
And Gloria, Gloria we will sing
That God on earth is come.

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@MilesTrav @Hitchslap1 A human is just an animal.
The earth is just a rock.

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@DemattosJeffrey @Hitchslap1 It measures success in so many other domains as well or better than physics. Maybe IQ only measures abilities required for success in those domains broadly? (It is specifically that)

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Just be glad you’re not getting as much government as you’re paying for.

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@skindie___ Is it true that it's like chicken but also fish but also better?

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@TalkWithSally My escapee chickens just destroyed every single garlic I planted.
It's a serious offence, they should go in the pot, but there's no point without any garlic.

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@Hitchslap1 I might have just failed the IQ test by doing the math to show women said yes more often than men in this sample, *before* reading the several hundred other comments doing the same.

I only read a dozen comments. The rest are probably saying this^ before I did too.

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@CeriJPhillips1 I understand the tantrum they had about tea, but why did they have to get rid of Sunday roasts?
This is why so many call American culture soulless.

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@UncleOwlOnX @Hitchslap1 Think highly of God's creations

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@CeriJPhillips1 @Oh_Cee_Dee This is the tale as I heard it.

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Important aspects of society are in decline, many of which are historically indications of an incoming renaissance.
Get ahead of the curve by developing real communities, hard personal work and reading real books, especially those that are the best of our past cultures. If it doesn't hit in our lifetime, your children at least will thank you.

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@becomeharmony I don't know what's going on.
I don't feel like I should be here.
I'm a little bit scared.
Spaces are the best

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@Hitchslap1 Thank goodness, I thought it was just me

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Can you imagine the hobbits meet strider for the first time and he has his entire hand gripped around a vape. They'd turn around and leave. "No thank you, we don't need help, not from you if you please"
They'd all walk willingly into Mordor just to find something to cleanse that travesty from their minds.

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@CeriJPhillips1 I don’t know which Doctor Who is “my doctor” but I now know Ralph Bakshi’s is “my balrog”.