Veteran, Father, & Grandfather who loves his family, country, and freedom. I am not always right, but I am not always wrong either. ๐ฏ Fiscal conservative.
Here is the truth. No local policy in Minnesota will impact me here in Michigan. Therefore, on the regional level, they can handle their own shit-show how their citizens see fit.
However, what I allow the federal government to do in Minnesota will surely be used against me in Michigan by the Federal Government when they see fit. I am never going to agree to give the Federal government more power to use against the citizens because they will inevitably abuse that power.
@hcmv007 He was told not to leave his vehicle and approach the teen, and he brought a gun. Obviously he wanted to and did use that gun. He was found not guilty.
๐ฏ Facts. The lesson I learned is the best way to win a self-defense case is to be the one who survives the conflict while the other person does not.
I also wonder how many people would have supported Trayvon's claim to self-defense had he won the conflict that night and GZ lost.
Facts.
It is also a fact that many Republicans stop caring about the Epstein files after Trump took office.
Seems neither side really wanted to publicly shame and punish the other pedophiles that were raping teens with Epstein. Unless we are to ignore the victims and believe Epstein was the only one doing that.
@FishingwithD@ChrisisWrightt@realalexsanglez So finally you answered. You believe Trayvon did not have the right to stand his ground and defend himself from GZ.
I do not know why you believe that, and I am not going to speculate.
it is a very simple question. I can answer it, but you cant.
Trayvon had just as much of a right to stand his ground and defend himself from GZ, as GZ was given
Austin even had every right to stand his ground and defend himself against Karmelo as Katmelo claims he had..
Its not that difficult to answer.
@FishingwithD@ChrisisWrightt@realalexsanglez And to be clear no matter what the verdict is in this case or any other I am going to still move and operate the same way in life. This has zero impact on my life personally.
@FishingwithD@ChrisisWrightt@realalexsanglez And still you are not answering the simple question or explaining what was false about GZ only ending up getting his Ass beat after ignoring clear instructions from the police. There is a reason for both.
I asked a simple question. Did Trayvon have the right to stand his ground and defend himself from a preceived threat?
I also stated the undeniably fact that GZ would not have ended up under Trayvon getting his Ass beat if he would have followed the clear instructions not to approach Trayvon.
Your response..."that did not happen." At this point not need to continue the conversation if we are going to ignore reality and dodge hard questions.
Did Trayvon not have the right to stand his ground and use whatever force he had available defend himself from an armed stranger who approached him in the middle of the night because he thought Trayvon did not belong in the neighborhood?
George would not have been under Trayvon had he not ignored the direction of law enforcement and let them handle it. That what reasonable people do.
So let me see if I can summarize your stance up, as I need to get off this evil App and go touch some grass.
Even though you have no obligation to retreat in the face of a threat, because a reasonable person would retreat in the same situation, that signals to you that killing in self-defense becomes a less viable line of defense?
However, even though a reasonable person would have listened to the instructions of the police and not gotten out of the truck to follow Trayvon, you still believe George was right to defend himself against a conflict he "unreasonably" initiated?
Am I misaligned with your argument? If so, kindly respond, and I will read it later.
@FishingwithD@ChrisisWrightt@realalexsanglez Are people convicted on reasonable actions or illegal actions?
If the case is being decided on what is reasonable, then could the defense also argue that it is reasonable to go and get an adult or security to remove someone who is in the wrong tent?
So says the man who killed him. And you choose to believe him. That is cool..
That whole trial taught me (and mine) that in a polite American society, truth only belongs to the person who is alive to walk away from the conflict.
I know from his own recorded call to the police that George was pursuing Trayvon because he believed "Trayvon did not belong in that neighborhood."