> Claim private revelation by an angel
> Nominally affirm the Holy Bible
>Deny the substantial union of the Father and the Son
> Anathematized by the Holy Bible they affirm
>Claim the Holy Bible and Christianity is corrupted to cope and mald
>Married and bedded an underage girl
If you hunger for light, stop snacking on darkness. It'll ruin the appetite. Sin cuts you off from the peace of God, desensitizing you to the Holy Ghost. Sin is like a toxic friend who tears a marriage apart, thru prudence cast out the "friend", for we're to be one with Christ.
Some of Joseph Smith's failed prophecies:
- A temple built in his generation in Eden (Kansas City)
- Imminent annihilation of Washington, DC
- Blessings for literally selling his own sacred text
- The return of Jesus Christ by 1891
Christians aren't the hopeless ones
@JunesLavender That's not the Son of God you're drawing closer to. That's a demon leading you away from the truth of the Gospel because you can't be bothered to discern spirits or question your elders.
You clearly don't know the difference between a "sealing" and a "marriage" or you simply prefer to lie. Joseph Smith only had one lawful wife. He only fathered children with Emma. Only five women ever claimed to be plural wives. All of them were in their 20s and 30s at the time. Neither the teenagers or the older women ever claimed to be plural wives. Your most likely a dedicated liar. You spit on the memory of Chandler David Hendry. Muting you.
There's a lot of nice people doomed to the second death because they died denying the truth of Jesus Christ. Chandler is one of them. No amount of malding from the E-LDS will change that.
Pray for his family, that the Holy Spirit free them from the path they've been led down.
@FriedScones@RandomLDS Your prophet groomed Helen Mar Kimball when she was roughly this age and you're posting them online for public viewing, settle down with the projection ma'am.
> Claim private revelation by an angel
> Nominally affirm the Holy Bible
>Deny the substantial union of the Father and the Son
> Anathematized by the Holy Bible they affirm
>Claim the Holy Bible and Christianity is corrupted to cope and mald
>Married and bedded an underage girl
@FriedScones If I've implied that Mormonism is evil, I apologize. I meant to be very explicit about it.
Also, your prophet (piss be on his grave) made a sister wife of a 14 year old girl in his late 30's, so chill with any baseless fetish accusations.
> Claim private revelation by an angel
> Nominally affirm the Holy Bible
>Deny the substantial union of the Father and the Son
> Anathematized by the Holy Bible they affirm
>Claim the Holy Bible and Christianity is corrupted to cope and mald
>Married and bedded an underage girl
Modern Christians have a poor working knowledge of historic heresies and how popular they were in their heyday. Polemics Santa can testify to that.
Arianism dominated much of the European empire and most Germanic tribes for about 250 years, and for a while, seemed destined to win.
Pelagianism boomed in its heyday and dominated much of Christendom for about 200 years, continuing to resurrect itself in parts of Europe every few centuries.
Monophysitism lasted for 200 years. Monothelitism lasted about 150. Montanism - the original hyper/proto-charismaticism - lasted 200 years. Donatism lasted for a whopping 300 years in North Africa, before the advance of Islam. The Social Gospel of Rauschenbusch ruled the church for 60 years before dying out, only to be reborn recently. British Israelism, pre-dating Hebrew Roots, lasted for 70 years in the UK. Liberal Protestantism has lasted about 120 years, and is on its deathbed and will be gone in our lifetime, losing momentum exponentially every decade as fag and female pastors spend the last remaining savings from a bygone era preaching to empty buildings, selling off properties to pay their salaries just a few more years until it all dries up.
We laugh now at some of these. But for a minute, they all seemed like dominant and unbeatable movements sure to squash the historic church. For a while, they seemed to meld the minds of Christians everywhere. But in the end, they had an expiration date that was waiting. So, what happened? Why do none of them last?
When doctrinal novelties are invented, they all solve a supposed problem, answer a difficult question, or serve a specific purpose. That causes what Luther referred to as "enthusiasm," as whatever that need is appears to be fulfilled by the doctrines espoused. And it's really hard to get through to people amidst that enthusiasm. They aren't interested in debate. They're interested in pitching their product and selling the novelty - and the Christian public is easy to buy it.
Every heresy begins by scratching an itch. It offers a cleaner answer, a more exciting prophecy chart, a more spiritual experience, a less offensive gospel, a better explanation, or a way to baptize the spirit of the age. That's why it spreads so quickly. It isn't competing against orthodoxy on the merits. It's competing by promising to satisfy an immediate desire.
And then, each heresy gets a marketing campaign. "The Church has missed this for two thousand years." "We've finally recovered the truth." "This changes everything."
The first generation buys it because it's new. The second inherits it. The third starts asking uncomfortable questions. By the fourth, it's either become orthodoxy because it was biblical all along, or it's sitting in the museum beside Arianism, Pelagianism, Montanism, and every other theological miracle cure that couldn't survive prolonged exposure to Scripture.
Error burns hot. Truth burns long. That's why orthodoxy always looks old. It is. It's what was left after the fire burned everything else away.
Over time, error has to sell itself. Truth just has to endure.
That's why Dispensationalism is dying. Right in front of us. All the protest you see right now is "much a'do about nothing." This heresy - unlike those others - is even propped up by hundreds of millions each year by an entire nation's propaganda budget and the most sophisticated religious interference campaign in human history. No other heresy has had a body-politic from a different religion spend fortunes trying to spread sub-Christian doctrines before. And despite that, Dispensationalism is still wheezing its last breaths on the deathbed.
Dispensationalists largely aren't even willing to debate their positions. When they attempt on rare occasion, like Dinesh D'Souza, they get crushed. Instead, Dispensationalists just scream their bumpersticker slogans into their online echo-chambers and condemn historic orthodoxy with scary labels. One-on-One, verse-by-verse contests of Biblical disputation? Lol, no. They don't do that. And people notice. They notice when one side is making sense, preaching sermons and tackling the open Bible, and the other side is throwing out "Jesus was a Jew" tweets and blaming the Holocaust on historic Christianity.
Where are the replays of the Dinesh debate? Why aren't they instantly replaying that? Why do most Dispies tweet but refuse debate? It's because their perspectives can't withstand scrutiny; that's why.
It's unserious. Dispensationalism is the cartoon of heresies. There is no Arius of Dispensationalism, debaters who seriously propose and defend their position in scholarly Scriptural debate. They don't because they can't. The more Dispensationalists *try* to debate, the more Covenant Theologians they make.
The vast sum of Dispensationalists you know were born Dispies, raised in Dispie churches, listen to Dispie pastors, and were brought up believing Dispensationalism was the status quo of Christianity, that it is the default position of the church. They don't know any better. They hold to Dispensationalism because, for them, it is the de facto position. But nobody becomes a Dispensationalist because they heard a debate, listened to both sides, and walked away converted.
Dispensationalism is an impossible uphill climb because they can't make new converts by conversion. They have to be born. They have to be raised in it. It's not an intellectual position; it's an eschatological presupposition. But Covenant Theologians are making converts of Dispies every day, all day long. I've had hundreds, if not thousands, of "converts" who were raised Dispie, then did the studying, listened to the matter laid out over the open Bible, and have walked away as Covenant Theologians. Their converts must be born and indoctrinated. Ours can be born and/or converted, both. And the conversions come relatively easily, on account of Dispensationalism being such a Biblically untenable, convoluted position to begin with.
God promised to preserve His church. Truth, ultimately, will survive the testing of fire and come out better than it went in. And soon, in 20-30 years, Dispensationalism will fill the ashheap of history with every other dumb, sub-Christian idea that has been crushed beneath the truth of God's Word. The Church survived roughly 1800 years before John Nelson Darby thought up the hair-brained ideas that Jews remain in God's Covenant despite being outside of Christ while in a convalescent bed in Ireland. It took a half-century of ceaseless prophecy charts and an uncontrollable prophecy fetish and world tours of getting Christians to look at the Bible like a Magic Eye poster before the idea got any steam at all.
A Restorationist cult, nearly already dead by 1900, got a shot of adrenaline and a new lease on life when Zionists at Oxford put it into a Bible with marginal notes and spread it throughout the world, where pastors, mostly without any formal Bible instruction, took it as the Word of God instead of the rantings of a heretic, and the rest is history. But before many of us are dead, you'll find the majority of the Christian church looking back and wondering how anyone was dumb enough to believe it.
Now, the cat is out of the bag. Books like Hyphenated Heresy and Substacks like Insight to Incite and thousands of Christians who are tired of acting like it's not the dumbest, most Scripturally illiterate position they've ever heard are making quick work of its refutation. And mark my words; there is no turning back. Christians have seen the Emperor. He is naked. And he is dumb. And we are saying so.
One of the most radical things the early Christians did in the Roman Empire was remarkably simple:
They refused to let unwanted babies die.
“Infant exposure” was widespread horror that occurred in the Roman world.
A newborn could be abandoned because of poverty, disability, illegitimacy, or simply because the family did not want another child.
Some died. Others were taken and raised as slaves or exploited in prostitution.
Christianity confronted this practice remarkably early.
The Didache, one of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, commanded Christians not to kill children through abortion or after birth.
Around the middle of the second century, Justin Martyr specifically condemned exposing newborns. He warned that abandoned children were often raised for prostitution and said Christians feared sharing responsibility if an exposed child died.
And here’s what makes this so remarkable:
Christians had almost no political power.
They couldn’t simply change Roman law. At times, they were the ones being persecuted by Rome.
So they lived differently.
They believed that even an unwanted newborn, completely powerless and capable of giving nothing in return, still possessed immense value before God.
Over the following centuries, the Christianization of the Roman Empire helped transform the legal and moral world surrounding abandoned children, with imperial laws increasingly discouraging exposure and protecting children.
Sometimes the most fascinating parts of church history aren’t councils, theological controversies, or famous preachers.
Sometimes they’re found in what Christians did for the people their culture had decided were disposable.