The Greeks used mythological storytelling to make sense of reality. So did the ancient Hebrews. The atheist and the fundamentalist actually agree on the same mistake; that "God" means a powerful guy in the sky. However, the deeper tradition has always pointed somewhere else: the ground of being itself, the reason anything exists at all. This meme only works if you've never gone past the pop culture version of God.
Jesse Ridgway,
What you have described is the deliberate ending of an innocent human life — your own child — because that child had Trisomy 21, Down syndrome. This was not a medical necessity to save the mother’s life. It was the intentional destruction of a person made in the image of God. There is no softening of this reality. In the framework of Axiological Essentialism, every human being bears the imago Dei from conception. That image is not graded by chromosomes, abilities, or projected quality of life. It is grounded in the Necessary Good Himself — the unchanging essence of God. To treat a child as disposable because of disability is to commit a grave moral evil.
You have participated in the privation of the Good. You have taken a life that the Creator gave. This act stands condemned under the objective moral order that flows from God’s own nature. No appeal to personal trauma, medical diagnosis, or emotional difficulty changes the ontological status of what was done. A human being was killed because he or she was deemed imperfect.
Yet here is the hope: Christ, the Necessary Good incarnate, died for sinners — including those who have shed innocent blood. The same King who rose from the dead offers full forgiveness and cleansing to anyone who repents and turns to Him in faith. There is no sin so deep that His blood cannot cover it. Repentance means acknowledging the evil of what was done, grieving it as God grieves it, and casting yourself upon the mercy of the One who conquered death.
If there is no repentance, the path leads to utter annihilation — the final, irreversible privation of life in the presence of the Good. The God who gives life is also the Judge who holds the right to take it. He does not delight in the death of the wicked, but He will not overlook unrepented evil.
I urge you: turn to Christ. Confess what was done. Receive the forgiveness only He can give. The same God who formed your child in the womb is able to redeem even this.
The King stands ready. The choice is yours.
Rest in the Good — or face the consequences of rejecting Him.
Lmao this meme is actually embarrassing and shows a complete misunderstanding of what Descartes was doing.
Descartes’ ontological argument is not circular. He begins with radical, methodical doubt — stripping away everything that can possibly be doubted, including the reliability of his senses and even basic mathematical truths. What survives that process is the one thing that cannot be doubted: “I think, therefore I am.” From that foundation, he argues that the idea of a perfect being (a being with all perfections, including existence) cannot come from his own imperfect, finite mind. The very concept of perfection logically includes existence. Therefore, a perfect being must exist as the source of that idea.
You can disagree with the strength of the argument (many serious philosophers do), but lazily slapping “circular” on it is just intellectual laziness. Descartes wasn’t begging the question — he was trying to rebuild knowledge from the ground up after tearing everything down. That’s the opposite of circularity.
The real circularity problem in modern discourse belongs to naturalism and atheism, not Descartes.
Under consistent naturalism, you have no non-circular way to ground:
Objective morality (you’ve already admitted it collapses into preference)
The reliability of reason itself (Plantinga’s EAAN destroys this)
The existence of consciousness and qualia (the Hard Problem remains unsolved)
Why anything exists rather than nothing
Why the universe is fine-tuned for life and moral agents
Naturalism starts with brute facts and blind processes, then tries to smuggle in binding “oughts,” truth, and meaning without ever justifying how you get from “is” to “ought.” That’s actual circularity — or worse, special pleading.
This is exactly why Axiological Essentialism exists and why it solves the problems the meme pretends to mock.
Axiological Essentialism doesn’t start with “God exists, therefore God exists.” It starts with something that survives full Cartesian doubt: the properly basic moral intuition that certain things are really wrong (rape, torturing innocents for fun, etc.). That intuition is not a preference or social construct. It demands a non-arbitrary, binding ground.
The only coherent ground is the Necessary Good — a being whose very essence is Goodness itself (divine simplicity). Not a God who arbitrarily commands goodness, and not a God who follows some external standard. Goodness is identical with who He necessarily is. This dissolves the Euthyphro dilemma entirely and gives us real prescriptive force without circularity or brute facts.
From that foundation the rest of the cumulative case locks in without circularity:
Cosmology requires a Necessary Being (pure act).
Fine-tuning sets up a moral arena for real choice and relationship.
Consciousness and qualia only make sense if finite minds are grounded in the Divine Mind (imago Dei).
EAAN shows that unguided evolution undermines our trust in reason itself — only a rational Necessary Good can ground reliable cognition.
The historical minimal facts of the resurrection (accepted by the vast majority of historians) vindicate the entire framework.
This isn’t circular. It’s convergent. Multiple independent lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: the God of Christianity as the ontological ground of reality, morality, and reason.
The meme is cope. It attacks a 17th-century argument while ignoring that modern naturalism has far worse foundational problems it can’t solve without smuggling in the very things it claims to reject.
Descartes was doing serious work. Axiological Essentialism finishes what he started and actually grounds what naturalism cannot.
@winsrfree@1mycah@LateNightCandi_ Ah yes. She dies in the Nordic lands, the place where if you die you go to niphlheim unless death from battle. And she goes to the fucking everywhen. That makes so much sense.
@White_Wolf_304@MarioCruz893573@ladyVypa 1. This doesnt matter because the comparison is retarded
2. Shes literally the mother of Loki and the *hero* of giants. A normal ass giant in Norse mythology cant just tell Odin to fuck off. She fought thor and survived. So yes. A literal goddess. Fuckin retard.
@AnisDrawn Nah, my wife is amazing. Love her to bits. This shits just retarded and no one asked for it. And thus its gonna fail. Congrats. None of yall understand the games fanbase. Ya played yourselves.
@ThatBeardedGu20@ladyVypa Theres a great many attractive older women too, so their point doesnt even make sense. There's like a giant subset of men that love milfs. They just uglified her on purpose.
"The fans dont fuck with atreus at all" the only memes I saw about this game for months were the dad and boy memes. The general consensus was that everyone would be sad if Kratos died, but it would be a respectable send-off and a good way to transition to the new character. We wanted to find out Faye's story from the pov of KRATOS. NOT FAYE. This just removes every bit of mystery there was surrounding her and completely retcons future installments of said pantheons for for example, atreus to fight. And it makes no sense in universe either. Every nation with their own pantheon is supposed to have the gods sanctioned to that area, the only reason Kratos moving to Scandanavia being the destruction of the Greek pantheon. So tell me... why the fuck is faye fighting Hindu gods in the land of the Nordic gods? This shit is terrible writing.
Lmao this is exactly the problem.
When someone actually pushes back with better historical and textual evidence instead of just repeating a 25-year-old theory, you dismiss it as “yadayada whine whine.” That tells me you don’t actually care about historical or theological accuracy. You’re just looking for any stick — no matter how thin or outdated — to hit Christianity and Judaism with.
The claim that Yahweh was originally just another Canaanite god with a literal goddess wife is heavily contested and rests on very ambiguous, limited evidence. The biblical portrait of Yahweh as the one true God who exists independently and stands in judgment over the Canaanite pantheon is not a late invention. It’s present in the earliest layers of the text.
You can keep coping and name-calling, or you can actually engage the scholarship. Your choice.
@fr3sh2d3ath716@Irizarry28@RinoTheBouncer My guy asking for God of War without the God of War is like asking for a pizza without cheese or sauce or toppings. At that point its just a bland piece of flatbread. Its not a fuckin pizza anymore is it?
@CabooseEK It looks meh. They could've done better on the gore. Might be fun for a bit, but I feel like this one will be forgotten pretty quickly. Kinda like that one shitty Avengers game. Just corpo slop at this point.
Lmao this is the exact kind of lazy academic citation that sounds impressive until you actually look into it.
Yes, Mark Smith’s The Early History of God (1990, revised 2002) was one of the key books pushing the idea that Yahweh was originally a Canaanite deity who had a consort named Asherah. That book became popular in minimalist circles in the 90s and early 2000s. But it’s far from settled fact, and a lot of the claims have been walked back or heavily qualified since then.
Here’s the reality:
The main piece of “evidence” people always run to is the Kuntillet Ajrud inscriptions (8th century BC) that mention “Yahweh of Samaria and his Asherah.” Some scholars interpreted “his Asherah” as Yahweh literally having a goddess wife. However, many serious scholars (including some who aren’t conservative) now argue that “Asherah” in these inscriptions most likely refers to a cult object — a wooden pole or sacred symbol — not a literal divine wife standing next to Yahweh.
Even if some Israelites were engaging in syncretism and treating Asherah as Yahweh’s consort, the Bible itself condemns that as idolatry (see 1 Kings 16:33, 2 Kings 21:7, Jeremiah 17:2, etc.). The prophets repeatedly called it out as foreign corruption and rebellion against the true God of Israel.
There is no clear, direct archaeological or textual evidence from the Bronze or early Iron Age that Yahweh was originally a minor Canaanite god who was later elevated. That reconstruction relies heavily on assumptions and reading later Canaanite religion back into earlier periods. It’s a theory, not a proven fact.
The biblical portrait of Yahweh as the one true God who exists independently of the created order and stands in judgment over the Canaanite gods (Baal, Asherah, etc.) is not a late development. It’s present in the earliest layers of the text.
So no — citing a 25+ year old book and saying “there’s archaeological evidence” doesn’t make it true. The theory has been heavily critiqued, and the actual evidence is much weaker and more ambiguous than people like you pretend.
Try again.