@BubbaSoree@OfficalRyteexYT@1v9GG_ Considering your incel takes about women and society on your profile, you should worry more about yourself and about not embarrassing your parents. Stop being an unfuckable virgin and start minding your own fucking business. Get a life.
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz Then based on what? Comments under the og post all share the same knowledge and facts; I brought you most of the things I studied in school as examples; and AI bases his claims on all the knowledge and books published online and makes specific search.
Let's call it a day, dude.
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz Bro please, if you think I'm biased and wrong it's totally fine, I'm ok with that, but at least go ask any AI of your liking for confirmation about Sparta specifically. If even AIs agree with you, then I just might be wrong. No hard feelings from my side obviously.ππ»
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz Bro, I would like to remind you that your first comment on this thread asked for evidence regarding gay sex being an actual thing in spartan society. And here you are admitting it was indeed a thing, but now wanting more proof that it was normalised. You're so incredibly close.π€π»
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz Bro keep pushing your own agenda by ignoring or minimising facts. It doesn't change reality. If it was talked about in poems and laws that are still studied in school, and represented in art that survived for 2500+ years, maybe it wasn't just "small amounts". Nice talk tho.ππ»
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz Why are you taking things I didn't say out of my mouth? The og comment claimed that homosexuality wasn't even an actual thing in Sparta. I'm saying it was a thing and it was pretty normal, but of course not everyone was ok with that. Wanna compare it to ancient Arabic society?
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I answered to you about that just now. It's fine if you look up your sources online, it's the only way to know if what you're saying is actually made up or not.
You can believe anything about me or my "lies", I honestly couldn't care less, and it doesn't make my facts less true.
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I'm not using any ChatGPT, firstly because I despise AI, and secondly because it's the last one I would use for a scenario like this. I've never claimed myself to be a scholar or some shit, I just did my studies.
And what about you? Are your answers ChatGPT or are you a scholar?
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I don't understand what type of "gotcha" you're trying to make. The fact that i brought to you these steps of the Pelopidas with the name "Sacred Band of Thebes" it's because is the name historians refer to it with. And it doesn't make my claims any less true. Are you ok?
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz 1) Plutarch doesn't call them "friends." He explicitly divides the 300 soldiers as pairs of erastes and eromenos. Male couples swore their sacred vows of fidelity (for life) to one another at the Tomb of Iolaus. And let's not talk about the eulogy of King Philip II.
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I don't try to make anyone believe anything. You can believe tf you want to, I was just expressing my opinion and knowledge about the subject.
About pederasty- I agree with you on the final part, but the "stigma" was about the urge of showing masculinity through dominance.
@Syto1148355@ryantaylor300@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I never said I read all the greek texts ever, neither that every text I read had gay stuff. I brought to you guys evidence (that I was asked for), that homosexuality was accepted to the point people made it normal into big and important poems that are still taught in school today
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz LMAO you guys ask for evidence, and when I bring to you, you cry about it and claim a never read the texts, when you're clearly the illiterate ones. Someone's projecting here, my little guy.
@ryantaylor300@Syto1148355@BrokenOptics@sultanofvybezz I brought you a lot of stuff you can literally look online to see that it was accepted well enough to be made into poems, laws, norms in society, vases and art. Of course like in today's society, not everyone is gonna be ok with it. But it was still accepted.