@RonEduard76@worldhockeyrpt Where did I ever say he relied on him lol? I said he helps drive play and get guys like Connor and Leon the puck. Both mcd and Leon’s GF% jump by 10% with Bouchard on the ice
@RonEduard76@worldhockeyrpt Obviously his point totals will get better with mcd but if you look at the stats with and without bouch so does mcd’s bouch helps drive play and gets the big guys the puck. Bouch 100% had a better year lol.
@RonEduard76@worldhockeyrpt You’re jumping through hoops trying to counter argue when I prove you wrong every time lol. Just ignore the better d stats and change the subject. Makars only a finalist because of name. He was on the best team and had worse stats than any other dmen in the convo
@RonEduard76@worldhockeyrpt He has the highest EVD and it’s not his fault Edmonton has by far the worst goaltending out of all of the other players listed. It’s bias against him. Better offence and defense than all three but dogshit depth and goaltending making his pk and goals against stats look worse lol
@RonEduard76@worldhockeyrpt His EVD is also higher than everyone listed. Either way if it was a purely defensive award the run away favourite should be seider who also isn’t a top 3 lol
@parttime56@AzorcanGlobal And Edmonton went to the conference finals than b2b cups, slightly more hockey from them. They aren’t in the playoffs and Edmonton is, lack of time off clearly caught of with Florida and is seeming to with Edmonton. Not much of an excuse lol just part of the game.
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks I mean that’s just wrong lol, he had 4 points in games 4 and 5 in 2024 and had points past game 2 in 2025 lol. Now we just lying to try and prove a point??
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks I mean now you’re just looping back lol, mcdavid has better stats in the finals than Crosby, that was my whole argument lol. You give mcd the same depth and goaltending he’d have 3+ already lol
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks Okay lol? So what about him getting his pockets run by SJ, he got hammered in 3/4 finals. Without malkin and the insane depth he had his whole career coupled with 9.30+ goaltending he wouldn’t have 3 cups plain and simple.
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks I’ll give you Nashville he was very good against them but in both the Detroit series and the SJ series he had points in 3 or less games equaling to 3 or less points and was a minus on the series at 5 on 5. His line got out produced and they still won. Quite literally bailed out.
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks I mean someone’s gotta score to win the game and he wasn’t lol, that coupled with 9.30 goaltending aggregate across the finals runs he was kinda sorta bailed out lol
@iamTRAPPlST@TopTierPucks You know mcd’s finals stats are better than Crosby’s right? Crosby got bailed out by insane depth and godlike goaltending runs lol, he shouldn’t have two smyths either but that’s another debate
@Pliableone@ZofiaSafin So what are they lol, one team made the playoffs and didn’t win a game when their star didn’t score the other didn’t make the playoffs and won games without help from their star. Is what it is. Mcd wins it
@Pliableone@ZofiaSafin I mean there’s no statistical evidence to back this claim up, oilers didn’t win a single game that mcd didn’t get a point in, the sharks did.