@Gecko1114@anchoredso37497 Imagine believing that a perfect triune being, that has everything they could ever want already, and has NO needs. Somehow cares if billions of (what are basically) ants to them sit around and praise them for trillions and trillion of years.
HOW do people believe this stuff????
@BurrowBombs@MartinTweats@Obt193 And if you reject that then replace sperm with sperm + egg that are seconds away from fertilization.
You are drawing a bright line that you absolutely can't justify.
@BurrowBombs@MartinTweats@Obt193 Not seeing the analogy here?
A: A sperm on its own is not a conscious human being but has the potential to be one.
B: Therefore, as it has the potential to be a conscious human being, it has the same rights as one.
Now replace sperm with zygote and that is your exact logic.
@BurrowBombs@MartinTweats@Obt193 Can a sperm develop consciousness in the right situation?
Whoops! All sperm have the moral weight of a human baby!
You see how stupid this is?
@BurrowBombs@MartinTweats@Obt193 A braindead person is alive too. But lo and behold ... you can *and should* pull the plug on them. So you want to try again?
What is it we really care about?
@MartinTweats 1/2 You're walking down a street and you pass a burning building. You rush in and find two 1 year olds on one side of the room and two containers labeled "10 embryos" on the other. You only have time to save one or the other.
Don't lie, which would you save?
@MartinTweats@Obt193 This is always the most silly argument that misses the point. The question is NOT what is or isn't human, a corpse is human.
The question is what is a conscious creature that has the typical rights we give to humans.
A brainless clump of cells doesn't.
@HiddenAceMind@adwoah_tricia God (Jesus) said, โDo not hold on to God (Jesus), for God (Jesus) have not yet ascended to God (Jesus). Go instead to my brothers and tell them, God (Jesus) is ascending to God's (Jesus's) and God's (Jesus's), to MY God (Jesus)and YOUR God (Jesus).โ
Totally reasonable guys...
@Boomstick44@Mikethewander1 What good does repenting do? God knew who would be saved before anything was created right? You saying he will change his unchanging mind?
@HiddenAceMind@adwoah_tricia If you're trinitarian:
Why do you call God (Jesus) good? No one is good except God (Jesus) ALONE, God (Jesus) answered...
This makes sense to you people ... I'll never get it LOL.
@Boomstick44@Mikethewander1 Let me fix your analogy:
- Judge puts a violent felon in a situation he believes it's likely he will reoffend.
- Felon commits crime.
- Judge regrets putting them in that situation.
But with God: IT'S WORSE. Because the God knew exactly what would happen.
@BobE3042@wendelltalks I takes something wet to produce wetness. A single water molecule is not wet, therefore, regardless of how many water molecules you have, nothing will ever be wet.
That is your logic dude.
@DivinelyDesined@byronology Right because they are magic.
This is why I don't think i could ever be a theist. Despite all your philosophy and well thought out arguments. You literally believe in magic despite not having good evidence for it.
@austinmonster@___TheGOOdWitch Was that when the "good" moral agents who could definitely arrive at the correct answer to any moral question INSTANTLY failed to come to the right conclusion on the most important moral issue they ever faced?
I guess it was in their nature ... which they apparently created?
@darwintojesus Name a set of values for these parameters that God could NOT have used to create the universe and have it work perfectly fine.
I'll wait...
Fine tuned... although ANY tuning would work just as well.
@ChristLifeInc1@darwintojesus A theory - as *everything* is in science.
Proposed by a racist - racists also believe in gravity.
With just a bachelor's degree - degrees determine who is correct?
In a non science field - again ... completely irrelevant.