No it doesnāt. Ephesians 2:8-10 teaches we are saved by Grace through faith alone, not by works. James 2:14-26 talks about works coming from saving faith. He clarifies that, whilst we are saved by faith, good works come from that. Thatās actually the beauty of finding God. We see the bad that we do and we choose to be better because we have been given the gift of eternal life. It cannot be earned because we all fall short.
@DavidJHarrisJr Great clip. I really love the soft, respectful, and loving approach these women have. I hope to be more like them in future in my discussions.
I love their explanations here. I was having a discussion with a Catholic a few days ago about works. They were Adamant we are saved by works and faith. I tried to explain that works do not save us, that works actually come from being saved, and that having the choice is actually really important.
I hope that I am able to be more like the women in this video in how I compose myself and talk to people who might disagree.
AMAZING: Muslim women learn about salvation through Jesus Christ. šš¾
Weāll never be enough on our own, and thatās exactly why we need Jesus. His grace covers what we could never earn.
Such a powerful exchange. You can see the seeds being planted. š„¹šš¾
Iām going to respond to both comments here.
My response hasnāt displayed arrogance. It has displayed humility. I havenāt claimed to know Godās hidden will, Iām submitting to what God has revealed. I agree that we cannot know Godās inner essence apart from grace. Thatās exactly why Iām cautious about doctrines God has not explicitly revealed. The question isnāt whether God could do something, but whether He has told us He did.
When you say āWe cannot ignore the teachings of the Church taught for two millenniaā you are basically saying The Church has divine authority to define doctrine, That authority guarantees doctrinal continuity and truth, Therefore, disagreement equals rebellion against Jesus. This actually makes Scripture no longer the final authority and places the Church higher than the word of God.
Now to address the use of Matthew 16:18 āThe gates of hell will not prevail against itā. This verse is misplaced here.
Jesus promises his Church will not be destroyed and death and evil will not extinguish his people. The Roman Catholic Church did not exist then. Jesus is not saying Church leaders will never err, Later doctrines will always be correct, or that Institutional structures are protected from corruption. If he had said that then his rebukes of Pharisees would make no sense, Paulās warnings about false teachers from within the church (Acts 20:30) would be pointless, and the letters to churches in Revelation warning of apostasy would be contradictory.
Jesusā words to Peter in Matthew 16:18 are tied directly to Peterās confession of who Jesus is, not to the creation of a future institutional hierarchy. Peter is commended because God revealed the truth to him. If another disciple had confessed the same thing, the point would still stand. The Church is built on the revelation of Jesus Christ, not on a man elevated above the others.
Scripture repeatedly warns us not to go beyond what is written, and it also warns that false teaching can arise from within the Church itself. Trusting Scripture as the final authority is not claiming to know Godās mind, itās submitting to the limits God Himself has set.
Questioning a doctrine is not limiting Godās power at all. God could have done many things He did not choose to reveal or do.
The question is not what God could do, but what He has told us He did. Scripture never teaches that Mary was born without original sin, nor that God requires sinlessness before entering humanity. In fact, the New Testament consistently teaches that Godās presence sanctifies what it enters. Iām not questioning God, Iām testing doctrine by Scripture, which Scripture itself commands us to do.
I understand that Catholic theology explains the Immaculate Conception as a preemptive application of Jesusā merits, but the question isnāt whether God could do this, itās whether Scripture says He did, which it doesnāt. The Bible literally warns about adding and taking away from Scripture. You started your reply by telling me Iām wrong in a number of regards and then proceed to only talk about one of my points. If you are going to tell me I am wrong about things, at least give your points like I did. Iām always open to discussion.
The New Testament consistently identifies Christ Himself as the fulfillment of the Ark, the mercy seat, the sacrifice, and the priesthood. See Romans 3:25; Hebrews 9ā10. Hebrews explicitly argues that the old system of sacred objects, sacred spaces, and restricted access has ended, not been reconfigured.
While Mary is blessed and chosen, Scripture never presents her as a sinless vessel required for Godās presence, nor does it teach that grace must preserve someone from sin in order for God to dwell with them. In the New Covenant, God sanctifies by His presence. He doesnāt wait for pre-sanctification.
For that reason, I donāt see biblical grounds for identifying Mary as the New Ark or for extending Ark theology to the Eucharist and tabernacle.
Mary was chosen by God & blessed but she is not the new ark. You say that Mary was prepared as a worthy dwelling & Catholics are taught about the immaculate conception, which says that Mary was born without the stain of original sin & lived a sinless life even though Mary herself said God was her saviour, not to mention nobody is born without the stain of original sin.
These ideas actually undermine grace. Thereās also no biblical rule that God can only dwell in something already sinless. In fact, the Bible actually says that Jesus sanctifies anything he enters & Godās holiness cleanses, not that something must be cleansed or sanctified before he can enter. This also ties in with your question, though seeming rhetorical, about why would God do less for the new covenant than he did when he prepared the Ark for the old covenant. They are actually fundamentally different things, which is made clear in Hebrews. The old covenant emphasised separation, fear, & distance. The new covenant emphasises access, mercy, & nearness. God no longer dwells in objects, he dwells in people. If Mary had to be sinless to carry Jesus then every believer must also be sinless because 1 Corinthians 6:19 says āYour body is a temple of the Holy Spiritā. You would also do well to read Hebrews 9:11 - āChrist came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, not through the greater and more perfect tabernacle made with handsā. This also leads me into your point about the Eucharist & Tabernacle. What you are basically claiming is: The Ark of the Covenant physically contained Godās presence. Mary carried Jesus physically, therefore Mary equals the New Ark. The Ark was kept in the Holy of Holies. The Eucharist is Jesus physically present, therefore the tabernacle (where the Eucharist is kept) equals New Holy of Holies thus meaning Catholic churches contain Godās physical presence the way the Temple once did. This is being used to justify real, localised divine presence, sacred spaces, priestly mediation & sacramental grace. If anything, this would point to regression, not the new ark.
The old ark had 3 specific functions which were: 1 - It symbolised Godās throne (mercy seat). 2 - It functioned under a covenant of distance and fear. 3 - It was tied to blood sacrifice & restricted access. The Ark was dangerous because sin had not yet been dealt with permanently.
The Bible actually tells us what the new Ark is, & it isnāt Mary. It is actually Jesus himself. Romans 3:25 āGod presented Christ as a hilastÄrion (mercy seat)ā. So biblically: The Ark was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, The mercy seat was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, The sacrifice was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, & the priesthood was fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
Your claim that āThe Ark held the tangible signs of Godās presenceā¦
The Eucharist (housed in the tabernacle) is the real, physical presence of Jesusā actually assumes 3 things the New Testament never teaches. 1 - that Jesusā physical body is locally present on earth. Catholicism requires Jesusā body to be in heaven & on thousands of altars simultaneously. The New Testament says that Jesusā body is in heaven, & his presence with believers is by the Spirit, not by relocation of His body.
2 - That sacred space continues under the New Covenant. Jesus actually ends sacred geography as seen in John 4-21:24 & confirmed in Acts 17:24 & 1 Corinthians 3:16. So, under the New Covenant God does not dwell in objects or in buildings. God dwells in people. To say āthe tabernacle is the new Holy of Holiesā actually reverses the entire direction of the New Testament.
3 - That the Ark model still governs access to God. The Ark system said: stay away, only priests, only once a year, & fear death. The gospel says: draw near, all believers, at all times, & with confidence. So when Catholicism reintroduces sacred objects, restricted access, mediating priests, & physical loci of grace, Itās not ācontinuityā itās regression.
So no Mary isnāt the new ark.
What a great discussion here. Nobody should have to pay for someone elseās crimes. Every life created deserves to be born. Itās easy to say āmy body my choiceā until you are actually confronted face to face with the reality of that.
This is how you change minds. You can clearly see this woman is conflicted. Her spirit is absolutely conflicted, but her pride won't let her own up to the fact that she is wrong. Nobody has the right to k*ll babies.
Baby lives matter.
@Playteaux1 My favorite scientific vs theological debate ever!!
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No one here is saying the disciples didnāt struggle. Scripture is very clear that they did.
The concern being raised is about how that struggle is framed when fictional elements are added, and whether that shifts the theological emphasis of the Gospel accounts.
Also, calling people ādelusionalā isnāt a counterargument. If youāre claiming scholarly credibility, it would be more helpful to engage the actual point being made rather than resorting to personal attacks like you did on my other post.
Iām not virtue signalling actually, and Iām not saying people shouldnāt watch it. I explicitly said I think itās good that it brings people to God.
My concern is about how Scripture is adapted. Thomasās doubt in the Bible is about faith versus sight. By adding a fictional love interest and tying his doubt primarily to grief, it changes the theological emphasis of his struggle, which is what I said in my original comment about it changing the dynamic of his struggle with Jesusās resurrection as people will now link it to Ramah.
Artistic licence isnāt automatically wrong, but when it reshapes core biblical themes, itās reasonable for Christians to be cautious. Scripture itself warns us to be careful about adding to or altering what God has revealed.
You say God would stop it airing but, just because God doesnāt stop something, doesnāt mean itās good. There are lessons for us in this life. There is literally evil everywhere and false teachings. Galatians 1:6-8 warns against altering the gospel, even subtly. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 talks about people preferring teachings that suit emotions rather than truth. Deuteronomy 4:2 āDo not add to what I command youā. Revelation 22:18-19 is a warning against adding to Scripture.
You can appreciate the show and acknowledge that discernment still matters. There are multiple Bible verses telling us to be discerning about false teachings and things being added to the Bible.
@ethereansinfo@trad_west_ I agree with you. I know Thomas struggled with Jesusās resurrection and wanted to see proof, but this changes the whole dynamic of everything. I actually struggled to watch it for a while because of that.
This is honestly disgusting. I also saw a video a few months ago where a woman was saying her 1 and a half year old daughter identified as a boy.
Mothers are supposed to protect their children, not bring harm to them. You cannot change your gender. You cannot change your childrenās gender. These people should not be allowed to have children.
This man gets it. So many women think men just make the decisions that benefit them and that their role is easy. Itās not any of those things.
So many women would sit back and watch their man fail on a decision they didnāt agree with just so they could sit there and declare that they were right and they should be the ones in charge.
It takes a true husband to make hard decisions for his family and a true wife to support him regardless of her stance on it. It shows actual love and commitment to the person you chose to marry, and itās such a beautiful thing to see.
So many times I have been through things and I felt alone and I didnāt understand why those things were happening, but later on in life it made sense and I understood. Iāve learned to trust God in times of uncertainty because he always gets me through things, whether I felt him there or not.