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@Aphelaeon @GameRealist_ Personally I think there's a difference between siding with an established and relatively orderly local government over a central authority or visa versa in a sort of limited civil war of independence is different than shooting up a school because you believe America is bad.

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@Aphelaeon @GameRealist_ That's a great example. Neither the Patriots, nor the Crown believed the outbreak of conflict meant they could now eat each other's wives and children. They were still expected to be bound to certain standards and both sides executed violators of these standards despite abuses.

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@GameRealist_ If a collective group has failed in a mass sense to fulfill it's social obligations to me your argument is that I no longer have to live up to my end for any of that group. How is what I said different than refusing to help an old lady at the store because feminism is bad?