Taryn Christiansen

A little thinking, a little writing, and you get some good results.

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The Self: Why Being Authentic is Bad Dating Advice. https://t.co/Q8FEV93ywW

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The Self: Why Being Authentic is Bad Dating Advice https://t.co/ItKjy6kgwq

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Or take Orwell. If Christianity didn’t happen, and there wasn’t the mass psychological event of the death of god (Nietzsche), then maybe totalitarianism doesn’t occur in the way it did as a response, for example. My point is that I see history as being intricately interwoven

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Take existentialism. That philosophical development has deep ties to Christianity, even if it broke from it. Concepts like dread, angst, anxiety, are very Christian. Think about Kierkegaard and Heidegger.

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix I think this goes back to our fundamental disagreement. My point is really that, if the biblical tradition didn’t develop, our moral concepts (for example) would be radically different, and that would fundamentally change the development of our literary canon

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Agreed

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@dypethic My bad

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Let’s just agree to disagree on the Nietzsche point. I don’t disagree with everything you’re saying, but I think our disagreement does boil down to something axiomatic in our beliefs and I don’t think we’ll resolve that on X

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Okay, so you think Christianity has no value?

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix With Christianity, his concept of slave morality, for example, would likey be radically different, or perhaps even absent in his work, and therefore his contributions would of either been much different, or even much less than they were

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Nothing to break from unless there was those chains

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix A reaction necessitates a thing to react to, and therefore is dependent on what is being reacted to

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Obviously he tried to break from the tradition, and did. But, again, you can’t have one without the other. Not in a necessary sense, but in a historical one. Nietzsche, as a historical figure, is greatly diminished without the 1800 plus years of Christianity that preceded him

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix That’s not what I’m sayings there are plenty of things to criticize about the Bible. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have important insights. It shaped the west for 1500 years, at least. I take it as an obvious assumption to make that there are worthwhile reasons for that

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix No Nietzsche was shaped by Christianity. His rebelling against is to be shaped by that which you rebel against. They’re not detachable things. They bear a deep and mutually informing relation

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix I’m not inferring the Bible is therefore true. What I’m saying is you can’t have Nietzsche without the Bible and (at least some of) the traditions surrounding it. And The Bible isn’t a lie, either, if, for example, I take it as a text and not a record of literal, historical truth

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Okay here’s a very simple question. Imagine if the Bible never existed. How would the famous death of god passage make any sense? It would lose its entire meaning, and therefore all of its profoundness, wisdom, insight, etc.

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@dypethic @TAFKAB2 @SuzanneBos43679 @AtheistPhoenix Also, I’m curious how what I said was a strawman

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@dypethic @TAFKAB2 @SuzanneBos43679 @AtheistPhoenix It’s not my theology. I’m not religious. I’m making a claim about human nature

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@AtheistPhoenix I don’t think it does so necessarily. There isn’t a direct correlation between the two in the sense that the gain or loss of one means a gain or loss of the other. I can know all of physics, for example, and still be incredibly misogynistic, racist, discompassionate, etc.

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix To clarify: I don’t mean ‘if there is no god’ that god exists, but that if there is no tradition that held a belief in the god he’s attacking

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@TimmyT099 @AtheistPhoenix Take the Nietzsche example. Without the biblical tradition, most of what he said is meaningless. He’s directly responding to it, and if there is no god, along with the long traditions and the Protestantism he was raised in, what he was saying would make no sense