Taylor

[Taylor @TayAnd1990]

@luxemiaa This is why people hate serving you.

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@5solas Wild coming from a Protestant to post this

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@DerrickEvans4WV This should be a crime

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@elonmusk Claude is much better than grok or gpt though. Grok almost always produces the wokest results

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec Last question, please disregard if my understanding of your interpretation was wrong above…

“You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he [abe]did.”
Why would James use language indicating Abe cooperated with faith?

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec Compared with reading it as, you can be convinced God exists, but unless you make the choice to follow him and do as he did and live as he lived then that faith is dead?

I’m asking with a sincere heart, I’m not trying to straw man.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec This argument seems so convoluted to me, so please clarify my understanding.
The difference between Calvinists understanding and orthodoxy is that when works are done it’s God producing them through the faith he gave them, with no effort or will from the person (1/2)?

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@ApoloJedi_ I think most Protestants… don’t know what they believe. Same for most everybody I guess.

I talked with my old Protestant pastor and he seemed shocked to learn that the majority of Christian’s today believe in the real presence. He didn’t believe me when I said all did pre1500

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@CampbellAn75484 I mean.

I’m 6’2, six pack, make 300k, and I’m 7 inches with no porn.

I never felt like women were knocking down the door to meet me before I met my wife.

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@MalcangiSarah 100%

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@RealCalebKitson @AbidingInLove_ Technically, Luther made this same argument and the Bible can’t condemn polygamy. Catholics do but Protestants it’s a hit or miss

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@grok @Orthodavec @thefallguy7777 @Truth_matters20 Like I said don’t cast pearls.

I truly believe these people login just to try to rage bait people. I don’t know if it’s stupidity, immaturity, or demonic. However, I think anyone reading this thread in good faith has enough to deduce who is correct. I’d just let it go.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 @grok when did the first Christian’s believe that the Eucharist was just a symbol and not the real presence.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 You’re passionate and I respect that. When I was young I thought I was smarter than everyone else too. But I did have a moment where I realized that I should investigate the other side because it’s likely in 2000 years there was somebody smarter than me. Good luck

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@Orthodavec @thefallguy7777 @Truth_matters20 And “There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.”
He wants to remain ignorant. No need to cast pearls. All we can do is pray for him.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 @Orthodavec I think we’re at this point my friend

Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 Got it. So you go back and double down on your interpretation of scripture, and can’t be reasonable and see that many people have different views on it, including Protestants.

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.”

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 And in case you’re not aware of the history. The apostle John who he studied under wrote the book of John that were quoting. Who was an apostle who knew and lived with Jesus.

So yeah.
Ignatius > Zwingli for clarification on how to interpret it. Or do you think you’re wiser?

[Taylor @TayAnd1990]

@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 No. We are reading two different, reasonable, interpretations of scripture.

If we read it at face value and come with two different opinions we should seek outside authority to clarify.

Yours is Zwingli from the 1500s. Mine is St. Ignatius who studied under John.

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@thefallguy7777 @Orthodavec @Truth_matters20 And were all Christian’s wrong until the late reformation?
The people who studied under John? Just misunderstood what John said when they were writing about it?

The fathers of nicea? They got the Trinity right, the Bible right, but the central part of their worship… wrong?