@VandyBagRipper@GoGetTheEggs@BarryOnHere Number of girls raped is not a good metric for a goat debate in my books. But I think that kobe is not on par with mj, lebron etc. He wasnt the best player on the team he won 3 times. He played with lebron in the same era and Lebron was clearly the better player and won more.
@i_ambtaylor@LBfinnesseLA@oldskoolbballx I dont think athleticism means the same thing to both of us. It is speed, power, agility,coordination, balance, endurance, stamina,strenght and mobility. What out of these you cannot develop?
@pgils27982@JuggernautBron Also โbaseball MJโ he was a superstar athelete at his prime, no injuries or anything. When he missed 1,5y He tried to be professional at another sport, he trained and lived like a professional during the whole time. He was best player when he came back, this shouldnt be surprise
@pgils27982@JuggernautBron Okay usually Jordan fans here thinks that if youre the best player, but you lose the series it means that you got outplayed, but good to know this has changed ๐ Just joking. The next year Bulls had much better team as whole (72-10), it would have been a disaster if they lost.
@SloHoopsFan@jmooremoney12 How about 2016 finals peak? Or that lebrons mvp caliber peak lasted what 15 years? From 09-16 he was every season top 3 mvp, won 4, 2 dpoy runner ups, 5 def 1st, 3 finals mvps, 8 all nba 1st, 7 finals and 4 rings.
@NycVipers He did not say 1986 โMJ is Goatโ he saw that greatness in Jordan and had moment of respect for him. Basketball players have big egos, swag and are proud so usually players who played with mj or the same time choose him as a no brainer as it makes them self also look better.
@DemontaShi23389@TerribleTerry83 -12 kobe lost to Okc and -13 to spurs. Lebron beat them both in the finals. You think that lakers 2010 would beat warriors 2016? This goes both ways lets not mix kobe here as this is Goat conversation๐
@NosebleedHoops There are lot of good picks but lets not dick ride MJ this bad๐. Great defender as a guard, but top3 all time is something else. Dwight howard? If 90s was the hardest era shouldn Mutombo be nr1? At least before MJ.