@unholyflowers@DirtMageVerdy@Khel_Cosplay This makes absolutely no sense; to date, we haven't seen a single Automa in the 12.0 and 13.0 leaks, nor have there been any hints regarding the Cypher of the First Ones.
@johnstone45586@GallowglassChad specifically, Sylvanas’s direct use of the power of Death to threaten the Void proves that Death and Void stand on equal footing—just as Lothraxion indicated.
@johnstone45586@GallowglassChad In my view, the fact that Sylvanas was able to drive back Xal'atath—who had absorbed Dimensius—demonstrates that the "Order" of the Shadowlands is no longer closely tied to the Titans. After all, the Titans themselves might lack the capability to force Xal'atath to retreat;
@johnstone45586@GallowglassChad After all, if the Titans had created the Shadowlands, it would imply they also created the Void—a notion that is laughably absurd. The idea that the Dreadlords—mere creations of Sargeras's own creations—could so easily drive Sargeras to madness is the height of ridiculousness.
@johnstone45586@GallowglassChad Retconning the "First Ones" into "Titans" would actually do far more damage to the lore than simply dismissing the 9.0 expansion as mere *World of Warcraft* fan fiction.
@johnstone45586@BaegulTheDwarf In reality, Blizzard never caters to them—or rather, while Blizzard might pay lip service to keep them happy, in practice, they keep delivering stinging slaps in the face. They believed the Haranir were a sub-race of Trolls, but what did Blizzard actually do?
@johnstone45586@GallowglassChad In reality, the First Ones cannot be retconned into Titans; doing so would only result in an endless number of lore inconsistencies.
@johnstone45586@xadamx1994@handclaw If we simply establish that Azeroth is one of the First Ones, and that the Titans have been lying all along, then everything can be resolved.