@LrCarnivalBroly Janemba too low and idk, teq ui struggled to damage gofrieza and could get cought early on. I dont think he is Z tier at all. Janemba was still good a year later lol.
@adrians61101651 Yeah, and imo they dont do enough outside of their general safety to make me eager to run them outside of rog. To me they are overrated currently but still an all time great unit
@adrians61101651 Yeah they definitely aging lol. Thats what is frustrating about their dodge, that they rely on it now. They can def still get by but they are not what they once were.
Full 2025 vs treeku. Still had this other rotation left with no actives used which is at least another 500 million damage lollll. Teq gogeta put up like 600mil on one turn, he was always underrated
@fwghosts_ Not quite and thats why I say Dabura is better. Team protector + better offense. But Beerus’ offense is not bad, he gives amazing support and healing and he has better defense. So I think they are pretty close
@fwghosts_ Right but that rainbow star makes a massiveeee difference. And here is a clip of beerus at 150mil. To me they see comparable, I dont see the gap. The friend beerus here is 69% I believe, but i dont see how that isnt at least close especially for a more defensive support character
@fwghosts_ Id have to see that lol, ive never seen godku or dabura hit way over 150mil like I had beerus doing. I havent seen gosku 1 turn anything nor dabura by themselves