@redeemed_zoomer Even tho i uderstand your point...let's remeber, "You shall love your neighbor *as yourself.*"
The "self-love" today is no the self-love of the bible
@matzhood O apóstolo Paulo matou cristãos antes de sua conversão.
Não são seus atos de justiça que lhe "garantem" um lugar no céu, mas a misericórdia de Deus.
Nas próprias palavras dele:
@andreeler A Igreja Escocesa cedeu; foi uma decisão deles.
Agora, não faz sentido criticar a IPB por continuar a tradição presbiteriana.
É como criticar a Igreja Católica por ainda ter um Papa.
luteranismo por ensinar distinção entre lei e o evangelho;
Petecostal sobre continuismo.
@captain_beto26@mikeim520@DF_UniatePapist If Jesus is your saviour, and He truly desire to save you.... Why in the world would you ask someone else to ask for your salvation?
Do you even believe the He wants to save you?
@SarahBeth2026 Yeah, but how do you get faith?
It's a gift from God.
Rom 3:10-11
“no one seeks for God"
why did you choose Christ and you friend didnt?
What is the difference, between you and him?
were u more humble/better (to see the need of a savior) than him?
No, it's all God.
@SarahBeth2026 Ephesians 1:4 ESV
even as he (God) chose us (me and you) in him (Christ) BEFORE the foundation of the world.
We only have union with Christ when he gives us faith, but God chose before the foundation of the world who those people would be.
@SarahBeth2026 Union with Christ happens in time, calvinist agree;(see photo)
But that does not remove the fact the He predestined us to be in Him
whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Rom 8:30
@SarahBeth2026 That's the thing, He had chosen us and had predestined US before the foundation of the world.. (Eph 1)
Unconditional election is just that. We did not choose Him, but He chose us
@SarahBeth2026 So God has a plan, he elects people for that plan (not acording to works or anything done by them, not even their will) "in order that God’s purpose of election might continue... having merrcy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever He wills" (v.v 15)
@SarahBeth2026 I understand your confusion.
*Unconditional* means that God saw nothing in you *when* He decided to give you faith (no good works, no good heart)
example: why do you have faith while your neighbor does not?
Not because you were more humble than him, u are not better than him.
@SarahBeth2026 Which part of Calvinism do you disagree? Total depravity ? All protestant traditions believe. Election? All believe as As well
Limted atonement?
They all do, to some extent, believe that only those who trusted in Christ had they sin removed from them.
So...
@PastorPompu Is he talking about substitutionary atonement? Then yeah, it makes sense.
Sin must be punished, no sin go unpunished (Ex 34:7)
Thus, Jesus received what we should have received in our place, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him
He was abandoned by the Father