ToraRaion

Husband. Father. I am research-based, prochoice & moderate. Ally of LGBTQIA and Sessrin. February 2021-March 2023 this account was shared with my wife, K.

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@voicearchivist Japanese version. Megumi Ogata.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan It also conflates a moral discussion about abortion with criminal law definitions of homicide, which operate under different standards.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan This ‘gotcha’ argument fails because it tries to suggest her autonomy somehow reduces the severity of the crime.

It doesn’t.

Murder overrides all choices she had or intended to make.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan Posted in the wrong place. So, I will just repost it instead of deleting it and posting again.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan So constantly bringing up double homicide laws as some kind of “gotcha” against prochoice arguments does not actually prove what people think it proves.

If anything, it demonstrates that consent, bodily autonomy, and legal context matter.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan If a person murders a pregnant woman, it can be charged as double homicide. When a woman legally terminates a pregnancy, it is not legally classified as homicide.

That distinction alone shows the situations are not treated as equivalent under the law and definitions.

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@MichaelRocky11 @hayasaka_aryan The law defines it as double homicide when you kill a pregnant woman. I wonder why?

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan So constantly bringing up double homicide laws as some kind of “gotcha” against prochoice arguments does not actually prove what people think it proves.

If anything, it demonstrates that consent, bodily autonomy, and legal context matter.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan So assuming “she wanted an abortion anyway” does not suddenly make the homicide of a pregnant woman logically or legally irrelevant.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan the question falls apart logically because wanting an abortion does not automatically mean an abortion would happen.

The Turnaway Study itself showed that many women who sought abortions either could not obtain one or later carried to term.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan The point of those laws is that the perpetrator does not get to decide the outcome of either life by violence.

It has nothing to do with her choices, she is dead.

She didn’t make that choice. And because she wanted an abortion doesn’t justify the death of the unborn.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan Let me clarify: the question itself is coherent, but the logic behind it is incoherent. Whether she wanted an abortion is irrelevant to the fact that she was murdered while pregnant. Her death still removes every choice she had, including the ability to make that decision herself

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan Ask a coherent question then.

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@Crash1mill @MichaelRocky11 @Noteekitty @hayasaka_aryan Irrelevant.

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@Noteekitty @MichaelRocky11 @hayasaka_aryan That doesn’t help you as you think.

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@texanforjesus @Kench_Onetrick @Noteekitty @MichaelRocky11 @hayasaka_aryan @Kench_Onetrick is correct. Your argument is incoherent.

https://t.co/8w78x8E4TB (two snapshots)

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@326justride @timruss2 https://t.co/BNcpM2kYhL

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@Helyyxent @326justride @timruss2 By the way, you are also calling the Bible an idiot. So that is God, Jesus and billions of people over 3000 years? You are calling an “#%?!” idiot for the original meaning.

There are many more verses that says life = breath.

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@Helyyxent @326justride @timruss2 https://t.co/BNcpM2kYhL

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@Helyyxent @326justride @timruss2 https://t.co/BLxWfQP7Lw