@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe There is proof that there was election fraud, though.
All you need to do is look at the fact that they allowed illegals to vote. Some locations if you tried to show your ID they would look away as if it was a crime for them to look at your ID. Lmao.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe Coming from a place of not trusting the votes fully because the elections allow illegals to vote, from that context, what he's saying doesn't look ridiculous at all.
All of his statement seem to be about not trusting those voter rolls and i think he's got a valid point.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe When I compare it to Biden or Kamala I sit here and look at these example and they just don't really seem like real comparable issues.
They seem like a president with a little ego and a goal to stay in power.
None of those led to conviction, they're fairly loose.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe The point really was that other cultures are coming in and retaining their values and doing whatever they want in our country.
It is a real thing that happens. Whether the Hattians eating our pets happened or not - we're talking about importing cultures that find it acceptable.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe The WAPO claims are old, the point is that as much, maybe even more than you are claiming we can't blindly trust the right, you can't blindly trust the left.
I personally would not be surprised if a few Haitians were true, despite it not being a thing broadly.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe Lol I don't agree at all here. I think there's plenty of room to doubt the accuracy of our elections given plenty of states insistence on being allowed to vote without ID.
Purging voter roles.. make voting harder or certain demographics... Illegals?
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe Few people can stand Pelosi, lol. Yeah, she's obviously insider trading. Looks like Trumps admin is too though to be fair.
Well I think the election was stolen but I also don't think he was there to overthrow the government, I thin his actions on the day corroborate that.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe Well to be fair, there were a lot of lies and uncertainty about the event.
And the truth has never fully walked out and confronted us.
I believe if you were willing to doubt yourself you'd say the same thing about your own stance given the information I presented to you.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe If you care, here's a grok chat sourced from this thread. I tried not to be biased.
Keep in mind it's agreeing with my "The truth is somewhere in the middle" take, not a pro-MAGA position.
I'm giving you more credit than I give most people tbh.
https://t.co/m2xKEt4YC7
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe So realistically the goal is not to say that this video perfectly explains J6 and that nothing bad happened at J6 and that the right is 100% innocent about J6.
But, I do think that there's concessions both of us could make about our sides prevailing narrative.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe I have personally reviewed the WAPO's claims of trump lying 30k+ times and know first hand well how deceitful the leftist outlets are.
You did have some valid but are applying them incorrectly. The cops who killed themselves did not leave evidence that said cuz trump bad.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe I think you have a propagandized and false view of the facts of what Trump actually said.
I think you likely know what the leftist outlets want you to think he said, but the facts and proof runs counter.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe As far as the 140 who were injured, I do think some people were there with bad intent and bad actors, but I don't think it was "Donald Trump trying to overthrow the government".
Unfortunately police get injured sometimes. Happens more when government deliberately mishandles.
@JamesMeany65152@tinytox@BearPandy@sarahtexe If J6 was deliberately mishandled and had state actors deliberately stirring up problems and riots as there appears to be evidence of - and the state deliberately mishandled it...
It is still stressful/suicide inducing to those cops regardless.
Point holds for either side.