Tracy C Coyle

67, author
Books and writings: cyclist

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

A comprehensive proposal to address gender care in the United States.

https://t.co/grQjq5kiTT

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@JennaLizzy @radfemlikelayla Apparently it matters to Cherriana.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@radfemlikelayla @JennaLizzy Really? Do you want to put me into that category?

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

Oh? I would suggest I was a 'core' member. I certainly did no such thing.

I don't dispute the allegations. I don't know if they are accurate or not - I wasn't there, apparently, for any of the behaviors indicated.

BUT, 'all of the core members'?

My father described me as 'built like a brick shithouse', an immovable fireplug. Hardly weak and frail.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

You indicate any continued use of the existing approach is unethical.

"So, until more studies can prove both safety AND efficacy, it is an unethical practice."

I'm not certain you have any concept of what this condition does to people. I KNOW you lack any understanding of it.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

From EVERYTHING I've been able to read: detrans after GCS is very few; more from those that did hormones and 90% or more appear to be from one cohort (I used 5% for my calculations but that is likely high; and there are going to be thousands that claimed to be transitioning - socially - that ceased. They have other issues than from medicalization.

MY #1 issue is that those that transitioned that should not have, who fundamentally (regardless of their original statements) didn't have gender identity dysphoria - NOW DO post medicalization detransitioning. For them, I am deeply saddened, but in most cases - they sought it out and continued to demand it for YEARS across all parts of their personal life groups (parents, sibs, peers, community, medical providers).

My numbers are from readily available statistics and limited to individuals in the specific states (I've done Ohio, Texas and California).

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

Well, I was/am part of those places. I've seen many things, including multiple incarnations. I've NOT seen what has been asserted. And as one of the two eldest (post and just damn old), I'd argue some can be strident.

The value that existed, still exists for some, IS notable. But there is a reason most elders are not interested interacting with those pre and early: things are not settled and experience has a quality.

That said. I continue to support transmedicalism, and that is part of what HB had been moving towards. Much of the current political unrest that is affecting this community, is a backlash against the extremes of the TG efforts to dismantle and reject transmedicalism. We've seen some of the carnage that has caused.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@Heccles94 If you took half your brain, you'd be no more stupid than you already are.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

Isolate....

A teen going to therapists for 3 years. A teen seeing doctors for two years. A teen seeing a surgeon over more than 6 months.

Groomed....

Just WHO is the groomer? Parents? Despite outside 'mandatory reporting requirements'? Doctors? Who can be dismissed at a whim? Therapists? Who live and die professionally upon complaints?

WHO....

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@bunnystard97462 @downlowjanedoe @chotiari @PrishaMosley @_celia_bedelia_ Gee, then suffer the limits of your intellect and enjoy a happy meal.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@bunnystard97462 @downlowjanedoe @chotiari @PrishaMosley @_celia_bedelia_ no one expects you to suffer....just do it in silence.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

No she wasn't. She spent 3 years telling everyone that this is what she wanted. Parents. Therapists. Doctors. All she had to do was QUESTION.

She can go live her life in peace - but she is seeking to end the medical care for AN ENTIRE group, because she regrets her choice.

She wants to stand up and make an argument, I will call out her lack of accountability.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@farman4x 3

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@downlowjanedoe @chotiari @PrishaMosley @_celia_bedelia_ [This was NOT done to her. SHE sought it.]

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

She sought out medical transitioning. To dismiss that is to abdicate accountability. This was DONE to her; she wasn't dragged kicking and screaming to a torture chamber.

She was NOT a child. She was 18 when she had surgery. She WAS a teen started her transitioning: She had been in ongoing for years therapy progression where she continuously had to restate her acceptance and desire of the treatment.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@chotiari @PrishaMosley @_celia_bedelia_ I don't think they SHOULD be free to go through it: there should be significant gatekeeping to prevent those that are NOT dealing with a specific condition from receiving the treatment associated with the specific condition.

I oppose gender AFFIRMING care.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

None. But then it was classified as such, by her, her parents, her doctors, her therapists according to 'best practices' and ethical rules. At the time.

And while MY use of the phrase 'self-harm' is antagonistic, it reflects that SHE sought the care, SHE continued to argue for it, SHE consented every step of the way.

NOW, she seeks to hold others accountable. And if that is all it was, I'd let the system work it out. Oh, yea, it did.

But she argues NO ONE should ever have the liberty she had and legislation should be enacted to end the care she sought out and received - because SHE regrets it.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

@Proportionatty @Draconianwrath_ @leftyvegan @zaelefty Again, you are arguing politics.

If you want to go there - say so.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

Those are two different issues.

Psychological conditions are a medical status. Not a sociological one - at least we have tried to STOP such abuses from the past.

"social identity" is a sociological issue - treat it as the political issue it is.

No, you can't, unless you think someone suffering from cancer is the same as someone suffering from diabetes.

While the transgender activists wants to make medicalization a social issue, and their opponents seek to do EXACTLY the same thing, medicine should be treating patients appropriate and the consequences of that treatment should be safely recognized.

[Tracy C Coyle @TracycCoyle]

I understand the care issue well. Not just in this category.

Do NO harm argues that when uncertainty exists, hesitation is better than 'jumping in'. However, it means:
recognizing when delay itself is harm. When absence of treatment itself is harmful. That means understanding the etiology and the appropriate treatment. And that takes time, effort, compassion and verification.

And given your statement, there is no ethical foundation for engaging in more studies. Catch-22.

The results are on both sides of the issue, and both sides are, in the opinion of the other, low quality.

There is no absolute cure; no complete resolution. The nature of the condition alters every aspect of a life from foundation through old age. And the variables associated with them are NOT just internal to the patient. Two patients, same condition, same response by peers and the medical community but one with a supportive family, the other not. The long term impact of that difference is profound - decades. And even if the internal is resolved, the external persists. The patient is cured, they are still haunted by their treatment at the hands of others. For example.

Those risks are not for you to determine. Nor legislation. That is for the medical professionals and the patients to decide if the risks or benefits outweigh. And if you argue that minors can't make that decision, they don't - alone -. Parents are part of that. And yes, there have been abuses (though likely far less that asserted in some places), but that is not the reason the care should be abandoned. But using a political process to remove care from a cohort is immoral. There is evidence. However weak you want to argue, it exists. There is benefit, when appropriately applied.

I don't argue that distress is the only thing that matters - I haven't here, I haven't in my writings, I haven't in my advocacy. On the contrary, I make a very clear statement that diagnosis and etiology are fundamentally important to the determination of appropriate care. An OBJECTIVE diagnosis, not an affirming stance.