Trad Seminarian

Seminarian. Somewhere in the Church. (Traditional) Catholic. Consecrated to Jesus through Mary. Documenting formation beyond the usual reading assignments.

[MascMillennial @MascMillennial]

Dinesh is going to have a mental breakdown soon. Spends his entire life trying to fool people into forgetting he’s a jeet then fully leans into ethnonationalism at the worst possible time.

[I will not eat zee bugz @BFrankzetta]

I mean Poland was occupying territory that was both historically part of Germany, and populated by ethnic Germans.

That is typically a justification for war. If America lost Florida to some war with Spain, nobody would suggest that it wasn't justified if we tried to take back a couple of decades later.

Can we stop treating Hitler like some cartoon villain who did everything just to be evil?

[Trad Seminarian @TradSeminarian]

@corinnec @matt_e_cochran I notice a conspicuous absence of, "Women: Respect men."

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@freshperson_ @NewEnglandLass He literally is though. At least that's the terminology certain saints use when speaking of the authority aspect of a marriage.

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@how2handleit @NewEnglandLass A husband actually has significant power over his wife, although, yes, modern post-Christian culture has made the exercise of that power very difficult.

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@Madbertie1 @NewEnglandLass You sound defiant and contentious, and your husband sounds like a cuck who doesn't know how to control his wife.

Tbf, modern post-Christian culture has basically stripped from men any real exercise of their authority over their wives, so your husband is in a tough spot I guess.

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@cath_menarion "The Church has always said so" is actually a legitimate argument for holding a particular position 🤷

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@cath_menarion It truly is; a few guys with rifles is much more reliable, not to mention way cheaper.

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@cath_menarion @JohnTraddington I'm not sure what gives you that impression... I'm not a seminarian with one of the TLM orders... Just don't tell the local bishop about this account lol 🤫🤣

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@cath_menarion @JohnTraddington We all know what you are, but what does that description have to do with @JohnTraddington?

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@Sensus_Fidelium You missed something.

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@Yotler1 You don't understand "natural" and "unnatural" in this context.

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I don't think @DineshDSouza will ever recover from such an absolutely devastating loss of izzat.

[Trad Seminarian @TradSeminarian]

I'm no fan of groypers (in many respects they're not right wing enoug), but you boomers and your destructive and innordinate love of women is going away, soon.

[E. Michael Jones @EMichaelJones1]

The groypers are a cult not a political movement.

They don't like women and are determined to remain in their mother's basement.

[Trad Seminarian @TradSeminarian]

It's not my take. It's St. Thomas Aquinas's, and he's drawing on St. Augustine.

1. Both are mortal sins. No one is defending either one as praiseworthy.

2. In itself, self-abuse is the graver sin. Aquinas ranks the sins of lust by gravity (ST II-II, q. 154, a. 12). Fornication is the least grave, because it violates right reason but keeps the natural order of the act. Self-abuse is a sin "against nature," which he ranks the gravest kind, because it overturns the order God Himself set.

3. Its harm to society is far worse. Augustine (De Ordine II.4.12) and Aquinas (ST II-II, q. 10, a. 11) taught that a ruler may tolerate prostitution as a lesser evil. That isn't approval; it's a way to contain lust that would otherwise spread everywhere. Prostitution has natural limits: one woman, one man, one place outside the home, with cost and shame attached. Pornography has none of these natural limitations. One image can lead a million men into sin simultaineously, in private, for free, and it comes into the home itself. So the two work in opposite directions. Prostitution, tolerated and never praised, at least keeps lust confined within fixed limits. Pornography does the reverse: it carries lust into every home, without limit, and multiplies it without end.

4. It deceives the conscience. Men tell themselves "I didn't touch anyone." But Christ called the lustful look adultery of the heart (Matthew 5:28). So the graver sin feels like the smaller one, and it becomes a hidden habit that lasts for decades.

5. A note on the original post: Premarital sex cannot be "intended for the good" of bonding. That claim is simply false. Aquinas teaches that fornication is mortal because it harms the good of any child who may be born of it (ST II-II, q. 154, a. 2). A good intention cannot make an evil act good, because evil may not be done that good may come of it (Romans 3:8). Unchaste courtship doesn't build a marriage. It trains both people in the very habits that later destroy marriages. Fornication is less grave than the sin against nature, but it is never a means to any good.

So yes: in its kind, and in its harm to society, pornography with self-abuse is worse than simple fornication with a prostitute, although neither is morally permissible.

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@AnnulmentProof @calebcoulter19 @JendersII Wait, so you're talking about the purpose of a particular use of the conjugal act itself within marriage, not the purpose of marriage itself, correct?

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@DrMedHelper @IncredPapist_ ?

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@AnnulmentProof @calebcoulter19 @JendersII That's not a definition.

So trees are "unity" because they are not human procreation? Rocks are "unity"?

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"a woman who has been corrupted while a catechumen or a pagan cannot after baptism be consecrated among God’s virgins" Augustine, On the Good of Marriage 18

In other words... "If you aren't a virgin you failed as a woman! :)" and no baptism or confession will change your status as an unfit marriage partner. Any subsequent marriage has the irregularity of bigamy.

[Melio Nitesco @ciaozoomer]

If you rep the Vatican flag and put down other human beings like this you are sick and distorted.

If you are a woman who lost her virginity in a pre-marital encounter, do not let these larpers affect you. Nothing can take away the inherent dignity you possess.