Trains for Europe

Our demand: EU organise the procurement of a new fleet of night trains

This will allow cross-border 🌙 services to be swiftly scaled up

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[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

If no railway company that wants to run night trains is strong enough to make an order for new trains on their own, could a consortium of private and state operators be a way forward?

There are precedents for it, and it's all explained here 👇
https://t.co/V3YU8Ryyuk

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@Meuseummeu My impression is it is all based on what data they do and don't get from operators...

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

In light of the discussion at @BackOnTrackBE's event last week, a new post on our site about scale and standardisation in night train rolling stock procurement https://t.co/B3XYpmnK4J

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@bosyber I commented over on my main account @jonworth about this. Honestly 🤷‍♂️. I can't see it improving things much, and from a cost of tickets perspective it might be a step backwards.

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@Martin_Jordan @cydharrell @vickytnz @TrainTracksEU When Midnight has placed an order to buy some trains we will believe it will happen. Until then we are somewhat sceptical, sorry!

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@Meuseummeu @googlemaps Nope we can't fix that. Speak to the rail firms! Sorry.

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

Finding a manufacturer for night trains is not a problem

Alstom is listed along with 12 other companies on our page about this 👇
https://t.co/1xux3kSAeC

The question is: WHO other than ÖBB in Europe is committed enough to night trains, and strong enough, to place an order?

[Alstom @Alstom]

We're developing a flexible modular rolling stock that can offer the necessary capacity to maximise revenues for our customers, whether they are public or private operators, new entrants, from the rail or tourism sectors - we have a solution that meets their expectations.

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@moritzkraehe @DieLicaon1 @TrainTracksEU Ja, das wäre mir lieber *auch* - dass DB usw. wieder einsteigen. Aber ich sehe keine Wille von diesen Firmen. Deswegen suche ich *auch* andere Lösungen. Und hier noch ein Paar Deutschland-spezifische Ideen: https://t.co/vwrAIzDX1r

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@jenscer @HSchlaupitz This explains it more: https://t.co/EvXAH9GHHG

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

Later today we're presenting at a Berlin Senat event about night trains...

... so we've asked ourselves

What should Germany do about night trains?

New post 👇
https://t.co/vwrAIzEuQZ

Summary in the 🧵

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@jenscer @HSchlaupitz Yep it's a misrepresentation. Germany will not subsidise night trains, but getting a path isn't too hard. Trafikverket totally messed up its procurement of the Malmö-Brussels train, and blamed (wrongly) it on the lack of subsidy in Germany.

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@TrainTracksEU @DieLicaon1 1) ÖBB had 33 neue NightJets, jeweils mit 7 Wagen, bestellt. 231 Wagen. Das ist die hälfte von was wir brauchen.
2) ÖBB will Routen wie Köln-Warschau oder Amsterdam-Marseille nicht betrieben - wer tut das?
3) Partnerschaft ÖBB-SBB deutlich tiefer für Nachzüge als mit DB oder SNCF

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@Equisymbol Who's behind that please?

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

If no railway company that wants to run night trains is strong enough to make an order for new trains on their own, could a consortium of private and state operators be a way forward?

There are precedents for it, and it's all explained here 👇
https://t.co/V3YU8Ryyuk

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

All right. The consortium has a name! 😜

All we need is... errrm... the consortium!

[Gustav Svärd @GuSv01]

@TrainsForEurope The European Night Carriage Consortium. ENCC. Pronounced "Enk" :)

[Gustav Svärd @GuSv01]

@TrainsForEurope The European Night Carriage Consortium. ENCC. Pronounced "Enk" :)

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@GuSv01 Regions in Sweden jointly own Transitio that handles this for regional trains in Sweden indeed. Make a kind of international equivalent! :-)

[Peter Neumann @pneumannberlin]

Jetzt auch in unserem Ratgeber-Teil. Nun muss nur noch das Angebot größer werden... #Berlin @TrainsForEurope @BackOnTrackEU @TrainTracksEU @NightTrainWorld https://t.co/UnkMroNtw3

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

Danke @TrainTracksEU! 🙂

This link from the @future_mvs website is now also on our "In The Press" page on the Trains for Europe site 👇
https://t.co/h5Rg0zfWJq

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

@real_mos Das können wir nicht machen. Wir sind zu klein. Aber @PRO_BAHN vielleicht?

[Trains for Europe @TrainsForEurope]

„Doch Berlin ist in der schlechtesten Lage: Weder die DB noch der deutsche Staat wollen das Problem lösen“, klagte Worth (Gründer Trains for Europe)

Zusammenfassung der heutigen Konferenz zu Nachtzügen von/nach Berlin...

https://t.co/JVl80SsvxA

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@TissotSacha1 All the first trains in that order are intended for national routes…

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OK, now Luxembourg wants to launch night trains. We wish CFL well. But where are they going to get any rolling stock from?

[Jimmy @JimNeutr]

Luxembourg : bientôt des trains de nuit jusqu'à Barcelone et en Italie ? https://t.co/PM1mndmUgZ