@DunningKitten@coffinvoxal I’m in the US. 1 pound of dried black beans around me costs $1.49 if you go generic brand, and has 130 grams of protein in total. Find a single grocery store here selling 130 grams of protein worth of chicken for that price.
@DunningKitten@coffinvoxal There are not only notable vegan groups and cultures in history, there are literal named, documented vegans who were proponents of veganism over 1000 years ago. Read about it or just admit that you don’t care about changing even if it is better.
@DunningKitten@coffinvoxal Goalposts moved quick, huh? First they can’t afford it, and then when it’s pointed out that millions of people would literally save money by doing it, it becomes “oh but it’s yuckyyy. I don’t wanna eat a bean.”
moral purity obsession locking a whole generation out of literacy due to the fact that the greatest writers are usually maladjusted weirdos who trend towards extreme personalities / politics
if you want something other than slop you will have to deal with “problematic” writers
@DunningKitten@coffinvoxal Veganism doesn’t exist solely because of ultra-processed food products or something. There are genuinely vegan cultures and subcultures which have existed globally for more than 1000 years. I think it’s pretty clear you don’t know shit about vegan nutrition.
@DunningKitten@coffinvoxal Cheap plant proteins exist if you do 1 minute of research. They don’t expect impoverished rural people to give up meat, they expect people who live in first world countries to get chickpeas, beans, or lentils for their protein, which is also way cheaper per gram of protein.
@alphyssh@coffinvoxal Vegans famously complain about starving Ghanaian children without access to electricity or running water eating beef, and never ever call out people who live in relative comfort refusing to switch to literally thing but better. And they always expect instant, totalized change.
@darkest_whims@dominatros@null_backdoorho Maybe so, but wouldn’t that be expected from the start? The term “realization” makes it seem like something’s not gone how it should have.
@TheNine13986429@SOPHONTSIMP technology will never solve. You’re fine though Chara, I saw you say lab grown meat would be better, which it would! Just a weird oversight I keep seeing in all the discussion about this thing. (6/6)
@TheNine13986429@SOPHONTSIMP options that pose no ethical concerns and are better in terms of energy, cost, and environment. I’ve even seen people saying this would solve world hunger, which is nonsense, because we already have enough food to feed everyone, the cause of hunger is political, which (5/6)
@ArtifactEnabler@steampunksappho@DreamLeaf5 for all of the pigs along the way, and there is a big practical argument against this in the fact that by the time this is achievable, lab grown meat would already be perfected and way more efficient in all regards, and more efficient still would just be a plant based diet. (2/2)
@ArtifactEnabler@steampunksappho@DreamLeaf5 There is still a pretty solid argument against its existence. The lack of a cerebral cortex in no way guarantees an inability to suffer, as the rest of the nervous system remains. The likely decades of breeding, genetic engineering, and experimentation would cause suffering (1/2)