@EyeOfArgus@Hallow6363 Vados has a better claim than Whis. She trained him. Regardless, it definitively isn't either one of the characters on the left who are surpassed by other characters and as such, both touchable and beatable.
@JUNIORANDS50855@Genki6chkDS@LuigiisG he has to use a whole ass special move directly named after its ability to destroy the planet, which Goku is then unable to stop with only kaioken x3. Yes, he can't casually shoo planets away like the FILLER character. Cope as much as you wish.
@JUNIORANDS50855@Genki6chkDS@LuigiisG It does, in the sense that the feat is more impressive than what Vegeta (who's stronger) could perform in the manga. Ergo, bad filler.
@Isotolerant12@Cheddar2039 How the hell is Goku following Saitama TIME TRAVELING what??? ๐ญ
and db timeline rule doesn't mean anything here they didn't make reverse flash unable to interact with Goku black (outside of the time ring)
@Genki6chkDS@LuigiisG That's what I'm saying. King Vegeta shouldn't be casually 3 times above Vegeta full power attack. It's filler nonsense. Glad you get it.
@X13Zackfair@AJsenpaii@LuigiisG FP Roshi doesn't have an effective power of 180, but even if he did that's still 1/30th of Nappa's 6000. And still not one thousand.
@king_troll27633@mohammedalbin@Thesquidman04@doffy_piece this didn't affect his scaling in any way. The black hole one was just to pretend they were being thorough because it's inferior to the punchยฒ anyway and they ignored the 5D slash (which is fine because fuck dimensional scaling but then don't mention it and pretend otherwise)