@HellScout1@PapaBonner@HoloCureGame In terms of how little they were around to have a build designed around them they are pretty similar, both had a debut stream and 1 other stream afterwards and little else.
@RueCreeper@ExpertArmcha1r Seeing as how pests like Evanito so gladly proclaimed that "EVERYONE KNEW", I don't think it's a crazy thought that a lot more people were implicated in one thing or another but it was more convenient for all of them to pin the blame on a few people and throw them under the bus.
@ExpertArmcha1r Most Vtuber orgs sell you talents, Vshojo set out to sell you a sense of moral superiority.
Anyone who tries to validate the company even after everything that went down only cares about the feeling of moral superiority supporting it gave them, not how good of a corpo it was.
@ExpertArmcha1r The EN side of the industry's eternal small dog syndrome continues to be hilarious.
If you need to justify yourself then it is because you know you are in some way inferior. Keep championing your bastardized version of Vtubing guys, and let that nagging doubt gnaw at your brain.
@Lmao57329745@3rnoul@ExpertArmcha1r Zen is such a big public figure, and he has some open secrets and past drama that a lot of the oblivious people who champion him love to ignore.
Wouldn't be hard to pull a Sinder on the guy. Get a bunch of people together, drop 10 dockies on him at once, obfuscate, he panics.
@moneyvortex This is hyperbolic, Holostars getting cut out and FSP JP dying is not "The bubble bursting".
Holo/Niji are still the industry leaders, small corpos still die every year, viewership/CCV/revenue still grows YOY.
If there was a burst year it was 2024, by now we are in stagnation.
@ExpertArmcha1r The simple truth is that nobody outs these bad actors because everyone has dirt on each other and everyone knows that the first person to speak out gets blacklisted.
Nobody is going to associate with a person they know has an ACTUAL moral backbone and will likely out them too.
@ExpertArmcha1r I love you chair but you are always far too charitable.
EN vtubing is a cesspool of cliques and alliances run and profited from by the typical internet cabal of attention hungry micro-celebrities and calculating snakes who use online communities for their own benefit.
@ExpertArmcha1r Complain all you want chairkek, this is just the way of the EN scene, we will keep reeeeing impotently at the JP corpos for being evil while allowing the literal scum of the earth run around scot free because we are BETTER, we are MORALLY SUPERIOR, this is EN VTUBING!
Vtuber """fans""" trying to not do performative outrage over stuff they have never shown interest in before challenge: IMPOSSIBLE (Gone Braindead)
Companies are not charities, get that into your head once and for all