i feel like after listening to jungwons clip and talking to one of my friends from Korea i feel the need to say something..
he said: 그런 것 때문에 엔진들이 싸우는 게 보기가 좋지 않다. 솔직히 공연에도 방해가 된다.
“Because of things like that, seeing ENGENEs fight isn’t nice. Honestly, it also interferes with the performance.”
because 보기가 좋지 않다 is a way of saying
“It’s unpleasant to see.”
NOT
“I hate ot7.”
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who encourage those fights as not being fans.”
조장하다
Means „provoke“/ „stir up“
He’s NOT saying
“Everyone who disagrees.”
He’s most likely specifically referring to people he believes are actively fueling conflict.
Given the timing after the Lima concert where the physical altercations happened and the wording he chose, it’s reasonable to interpret his criticism as being directed toward people who were escalating and provoking conflict. (Both sides!)
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who incite/provoke those kinds of fights as not fans.”
The part 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들. (those who promote such disputes)
He did NOT say:
-People who believe ENHYPEN is 7 are fake fans.
-People who say the ot7 fanchant are fake fans.
-Anyone who misses the previous ENHYPEN is a fake fan.
Those sentences simply never left his mouth.
he used the verb 조장하다, which means:
to provoke/stir up/encourage conflict/fights- so grammatically, the main thing of his criticism is people who are provoking fights, not people holding a particular feeling/opinion.
where the disagreement comes from is the sentence:
‘Enhypen is 7’이라는 말은 우리끼리 싸우라는 이야기다.
“ENHYPEN is 7’ is a statement that tells us to fight among ourselves.”
Some interpret this as:
“Therefore, anyone who says ENHYPEN is 7 is provoking conflict.”
Others interpret it as:
“He’s talking about people using that slogan in ways that create fights.”
That extra connection people made is an interpretation..
His main focus was on the fighting:
The repeated topic was conflict, not simple opinions.
тише тише, народ. да, больно, но это очевидно, что его заставили. контора уже не знает как бороться с от7, они не могут нас заглушить и в очередной раз гасят нас через мемберов, зная, что они наша болевая точка и мы идём за ними
Чонвон НЕ виноват, это НЕ он сказал, а контора
я не верю словам Чонвона и что они были сказаны им. по той простой причине, что у меня есть глаза, я могу сравнить кц в Корее и в латам. я видела их лица во время фанчарта. И Я МОГУ СЛОЖИТЬ ДВА ПЛЮС ДВА ОКЕЙ БЛЯТЬ
"Jungwon said Enhypen is six"
1) Jay showed number 7 on his shirt after the Ot7 fanchant.
2) Jungwon looking at the members, all smiley when Heeseung's name is mentioned.
3) Sunghoon happier than ever even after ot7 fanchant.
4) Members continuing to perform songs originally choreographed by the seven.
5) some merchandise and past albums remaining available instead of being edited to remove past OT7.
6) Recent clip of Ot7 released by belift themselves.
7) Sunoo watching memories from trainee days that naturally include Heeseung.
8) Members leaving spaces when they get the opportunity.
9) Members making hand signs of the number 7
10) Members not being bothered with fan projects for all the 7 members
Also, about the live where Jay stated for the fans to not say 6 or 7, he didn't tell y'all to say enhypen is SIX only, he said Enhypen is enhypen because he didn't want to hurt HEESEUNG'S feelings too but whose gonna acknowledge that for you?
Anyways feel free to add more.
Чонвона, я понимаю, что тебя заставила это сказать компания, так как у неё горит жопа из-за двух от7 фанчартов
но сходи, на всякий случай, помой рот с мылом
Вы же понимаете что это провокация от компании? Сам он этого бы не сказал и знаете почему, потому что он начал оправдываться, компания любыми способами заставляет нас сдаться, он не мог сказать это просто из-за имени, в фанчанте в других группах с этим нет проблем, а у нас что?
Jungwon talked abt our ot7 fanchant... He also told that enhypen is 6 ...he mentioned they don't want that...
He also mentioned "COMPANY DOESN'T WANT THAT"
Don't you think company are using jungwon to stop us...we came this far now they are doing this when we are doing ot7 fanchant..We all saw how much happy they were when we did ot7 fanchant... Do you believe this words.. That they don't want that..
Don't lose hope... It's alltthe strategy of company to stop us
Jay raised the 7 sign and we got an OT7 FANCHANT twice. Enha looked so happy and OT7 engenes were thrilled. This is honestly the best day since March 10th. We are going to get him back very soon, good times are on the way.
Enhypen dropping the - from their old logo is symbolic.
Read the lyrics from Future Perfect and Walk the Line intro, and you’ll see exactly why they rebranded the logo.
The last line of WTL is “Every step we take, agony turn to bliss” sound familiar?
The Sin: Bliss is coming!
Euphoria isn't a feeling — it's the truth of seven standing together. Drop the tags and make sure the world sees that fairness for our seven isn't an option, it's the only standard we accept.
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"Everything in K-pop is a hint."
🐈⬛: it’ll all make sense soon... You notice more than you think
🐈 : Better days are coming
🐣 : I think something fun and unexpected is waiting for you.
🐕 : Don’t give up on what you’ve been hoping for.
My hopium for today.
if u know heeseung even a little, you’d know that if he really chose to leave, he’d give engenes a clear explanation. the members would’ve supported him till the end too. so why is no one talking abt that? do u really think six years together can be erased that easily??