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[Vroni @VroniB3]

@oceanbaes Its not their money, they get paid regarding the terms of the contract, if hybe channels money doenst change the fact that they got paid like they should...

[Vroni @VroniB3]

@howsweettttt No she offered the 19 M to not trigger the non compete clause because if she wins, she cant work in the industry as producer or ceo of an entertainment company

[Vroni @VroniB3]

Do you really think that ador has no evidence that support their claim? If the other now jeans members really give away their chat logs to return to ador, then the evidence is on adors side. The facts are the following: there was an elle photoshooting that ador wasnt involved with ... elle doesnt make charity work, that means someone has to sign a contract if it wasnt ador, then the only possible answer is Danielle ... the problem here lies in the following: the members started to work independently even through the contract case was pending ... even after the injunction she planned for more work... perhaps the collaboration did fall through because the American duo stepped back but alone that she planned it and did steps to it is a reason for terminate

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There is one thing that im really curious about ... we all know that she wants to get away from hybe till 2021 (like the text messages alreade shown) ... we all know she is not a fan of the multilable system and knew that all the other group's are competition.... why did she give personally her planing dokument for her own group to belift?

I mean she is a high intelligent woman and she is in the industry since decades and now a producer from belift came to her with his concern for the new group and with no ideas and instead give some suggestions and ideas for other concepts she gave away her own concept for him to get inspiration? And then is surprised because there are some similarities?

Let me put it this way: her goal is to use hybes money to make her own group successful, and the leave without have to pay compensation

Isnt the best solution to set the ground for a big scandal and to be seen as the victim to fullfile her goal?

Because with this situation, because she gave belift the planing dokument she already knew that she can frame them always for plagiarism even if belift uses other concepts... why? Because ther will always be similarities between girlgroups

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Njs has a rough market value for around 644 M $ , why should they sell ador for 300 ?

Also it is more about principle than punishment, mhj wasnt fit to be a ceo, not reading and understanding businesscontract she signed, let her employees get paid outside adors structure (taxfraud?), we now that at least there was an idea to take ador or the girls in her mind ... the whole illit thing is an excuse to finalise her ideas ... I mean she claimed belift "stole" her planing dokuments, but we already know that she willingly gave them away... and yet she was "surprised" because of the similarities? If someone ask me for my opinion because he doesnt have an idea for a proposal, I would give some suggestions, but I wouldn't give my own proposal as example... the possibility that there are similarities after that are very high ...

And another unpopular opinion: what if mhj did give the proposal to belift to later claim plagiarism? To get an easy exit?

The girls are only the aftermath of the conflict between mhj and hybe and they stood on the wrong side ...

[Vroni @VroniB3]

Dont spread fake news, the court never confirmed it, it was only an argument from mhj side.... the court only stated that it was legitimate for her to raise concern about this matter if its true or not... also legally speaking it isnt plagiarism, because the intellectual property is owned by hybe... if hybe decides to use a good planing dokument for other groups then they can do it... as long as the music is not the same there shouldn't be an issue... also i think there is a big problem in the thinking of the fans and mhj... why do you all believe that if hybe uses the formula for illit, that njs will be less popular in the future? If mhj is really that great, she can modify her own ideas and change the direction... njs has a solid fanbase and is well received by the public ...there shouldn't be a problem

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The funny thing in this whole situation is that there is basically no evidence for your accusations. If hybe really wanted to njs to fail, they wouldn't invest this much money and bsh wouldn't give mhj the loan to buy her share in ador.... bsh is not dumb to invest in something he doesnt believe in. If hybe only wanted mhj formular, they only have to had her in her producer position she got after joining hybe...

On the other hand there are plenty of messages from mhj side which helps the argument that she alway wanted to use hybes money, make the girls popular and take them with her ...
If you look at her as ceo and her arrangements over the last years, her handling of things is questionable, she herself claimed in court under oath that she didnt read the contract she signed, that she doesnst understand the business and because of her decision ador had to pay penalty for tax evasion... that basically proofes one of 2 points:
1. She is really not made to be an ceo
2. She did these things knowingly and tried to sabotage the whole thing

No hard feelings here, but your logic doesnt make sense

[Vroni @VroniB3]

@lontrapham Pledis was the label who had the best revenue and profit in hybe in 2024

[Vroni @VroniB3]

@newjeanspoche Yeah the problem on this situation is that if mhj really wins after the appeal, she cant work in the industry for the next minimum 4 years (the putoption triggers the noncompete clause)... thats the reason why she made that offer and not because she is a good person

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@LoveStarzz1 They didnt robbed her but they said that she should shoulder the whole cost because the chance of winning is basically 0 ...

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@Yoonginapuppy2 Thats not true, in real accounting a over amount of inventory wouldn't reflect in the actual revenue of the company, but would be business expenses on the other hand and therefore would minimize the profit... the revenue would only be higher if there was an actual sale ...

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Please tell me what the valid reasons are, that ador violatet... not based on emotions but on facts.

- did they not get paid?
- did they not get work before they decided to go on strike because of the mhj-situation?

Why should a company invest millions of dollars into the group if they could walk away fine after they become successful? Why should they risk their money if they hadn't the insurance that the investment will get paid for many years?

Do you really think that njs would get less famous or successful because of illit? Ador had has enough money to promote them and the neccesary success till the contract could expire in 2029... if mhj wouldnt have go public whith the whole situation then there wouldn't be a reason for hybe to go further ... if hybe would really have blocked the way of njs then they would have a reals reason to terminate ... As long as the music of the 2 groups is different then it should be ok...if not then by your logic njs cant use a concept that lesserafim put out already right? That's really not realistic... and a dumb argument... legally speaking this whole situation isnt even seen as plagiarism because of the copyright that its owned by hybe...

And the whole drama because of one statement of a manager who said that illit should "ignore" hanni ... the manager perhaps only had the best intention for illit in mind to not mind the whole drama around the situation ... if someone would copy my style in school and I would be mad about it and post about it on the schoolforum and then the other person gets bullied because of it trought the public and then the teacher would tell this person to ignore me and get not rather involved, then I wouldn't be sad about it... thats not bullying on their part against me ...

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@nxemixyy That means its ok for mhj to use enhypens blueprint and estatic for new jeans but when belift uses the same things for their own girl group it means they plagiarised njs? Isnt that a double standard?

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@phamniverse Can we be on the same side that njs use the original dance steps for the intro and illit does the tiktok trend for it, which was new and became famous after njs did the cover? This is really childish...

[Vroni @VroniB3]

No that's not what happened... in reality mhj did get the invitation that she could go for a Grammy nomination and ask hybe for their opinion. Hybe said basically, that the cost for the nomination and advertisements are very high and the chance of winning is really low, they spoke of their own experiences with bts which was more famous through their nomination than njs at that time... they only said that they wont give the funds for it, but mhj could go this direction with the funds of ador ... they never blocked the road, but mhj decided herself to not submit them ... thats what happend

[Vroni @VroniB3]

Thats not true, the appeal was not rejected, the put option case still is open, the case is a case of time, the court didn't investestigated if she ever breached the contract but if at the time of dismissal was enough reason to dismiss her and thats basicly the point ... the same goes for the police investigation, they did look at the evidence hybe presented the first time and did say that the evidence isnt beyond reasonable doubt, that only means for a criminal case it is not enough, hybe later submitted more evidence... also that the police shared their whole investigation report with mhj doesn't help, because this is basically a felony itself on the police side... the decision of the police doesn't reflect if she is guilty or not, but that the evidence was not enough...

Like I said the win in the put option case is a problem for mhj itself... it would be better if she settled with hybe outside court

[Vroni @VroniB3]

Yeah she won in the first instant but the win is not in her favour... because of it she cant work in her field till minimum 2029 and at latest when she sell back her last shares to hybe... the win in the putoption triggered the noncompete clause ....

She basically shot herself in the own foot, if she wins she can't work or have her own entertainment company 😏 if she looses hybe is in the right and they can use the verdict in the other compensation cases... play stupid games win stupid prizes...

[Vroni @VroniB3]

The problem on her side are the following:

The policeinvestigation in 2025 is still ongoing after hybe did ask for an reinvestigation... also only because there is no ground for a criminal lawsuit, doesnst mean she is in the right 😉.... in criminal law the evidence has to be beyond a reasonable doubt, if its only more likely to be true its not enough to go further in the case.

Second: the lawsuit in her contract case is not in favour for her. It was a timing case, that means the court only decided if the contract was terminated before she went for her putoption ... the court decided that at that point it wasnt ... and thats the problem... because of the putoption went through, it triggered the noncompet clause of the contract, that means she cant work in this field at minimum 2029 and even after that, if she cant sell her remaining shares, she has no possibility to work as a producer or work with her own entertainment company...

Thats the reason why she hold the press conference with the claim to withdraw her lawsuit if hybe withdraws the other ones...

If she wins the lawsuit in the end she gets the money from the option, but looses her career... and her winning will be eaten by tax and the lawyers fees ... and if she looses in the end hybe is in the right ...

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@Bernice_Base @luenacore @blopybee @DaniellePopBase @Haerin_PopBase @HyeinPopBase @minjibase @MinotaurKard @mixdognurung @neviecutie @NJZ_voting It depends on who got paid in the end, if coca cola paid the money to ador, then its not a contract violation, if they paid the member directly then it is...